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Tony Cannataro's avatar

Love the common sense discussion by Poilievre on Joe Rogan podcast. If only more Canadians would listen to this versus the gaslighting by the Liberanos and their proprganda machine on the MSM bought by the Liberanos government and paid for by taxpayers.

Darryl Burrows's avatar

Nailed it. Poilievre came off as an honest, decent “ Everyman” , an average guy who is in this for all of the right reasons. He showed a ton of class. He refused to disrespect Carney - saying he wouid not criticize the government while in another country. He did not shift the blame for the election disappointment on to anyone else either - and after listening to the Liberals blame virtually every problem we have in Canada on Trump - including issues we have had long before he even was elected again, this showed a lot of class. I like how he explained how our government works and what the job of the

Loyal Leader of the Opposition actually entails and means. A lot of these Liberals who have no clue what his job actually is or how our government is actually structured should listen to this so they would at least have a clue. But they won’t.

Compare Poilievre today to that bonehead Gregor Robertson who stood up in the House of Commons this week in question period and replied to a question on chronic housing unaffordability in this county with this response - and I quote verbatim “ Mr. Speaker, it’s no surprise that Canadians are challenged with buying homes right now when there is a war in The Middle East”. WHAT ???

The war in the Middle East has nothing to do with housing in Canada - this is a problem that has been going on for the past few YEARS. The war in the Middle East is 3 weeks old. The Liberals have zero scruples - they will go so low to come up with any excuse they can grasp to deflect the blame for anythiing. They take zero responsibility. It’s actually pathetic. Great job Pierre. Class act.

Marg's avatar

Wow! That was sooo genuine! I listened to the entire podcast.

I think what PP has to do now is video a drilling on the oilsands, give pp the real deal and how everything is fixed afterwards!

Cannot even compare with chile CON Carney!!

Mitchell Schuett's avatar

I listened to it this afternoon at work. All In all it was good. Some good insight and common sense logic. However, I was disappointed that half of it was wasted on fighting. With that being said, this just goes to show that we need to see PP doing more podcasts....away from the MSM here in Canada.

Darryl Burrows's avatar

I too got a bit bogged down with the MMA stuff and the physical fitness stuff but let’s remember, Rogan is not a political commentator per se - his show covers a wide spectrum of topics. This was to guys having a conversation on topics they were both equally well versed in. I went into it looking for Pierre to slay Carney, the Liberals and the overtly biased MSM in Canada. He refused to do any of that, He was there as a guy to get to know Rogan on his turf on topics that Rogan is very well versed in. He was actually interested in what Rogan had to say and at times was questioning Rogan. It took me awhile to adjust to this - as I went into it with a preconceived notion. That was my fault, not theirs. Take it for what it was, not what you or I thought it was going to be. In the end it was an interesting conversation and really - when it was over I thought to myself - how can you not like either one of these guys. They are decent, honest people sharing their points of view. When did that become such a bad thing ?

Mitchell Schuett's avatar

Ya. I totally agree. I felt the same way. Doesn't mean I dont feel disappointed that they didnt talk more about politics or the MSM in Canada.

Louise condy's avatar

There was no question in my mind, he nailed it, and so did Joe. I felt a small stir, that grew, I had forgotten what it was. Then I realized. It was pride. Pride in the Canada he described, and the man he is.

MAYDAY911's avatar

Our next prime minister.

Verna Scott's avatar

Very long podcast.. but Pierre did a fabulous job maintaining his position as Joe critiqued him and Canada..its what he does best..Joe! the large following shows that. People love his style. I might be a convert..not sure.

I only know him from fear factor and loved most of that show..

Pierre is like the professor or teacher we all love.. very knowkedgeable and kind but dont try to push me around.. wont work. He can stand his ground.. his best stand his ground is in the HOC...the PM misses most of it for this reason .

He didnt talk about Carney because its beneath him and dhowed his classy side..he respectful. Jmo.

he and Joe shared a laugh with the comment Canadians are kind just dont push us around.. like Trump.

Love this podcadt ..saw a side of Pierre i really like! HE SOLD CANADA.. THE CANADA WE ALL KNOW...

Does it change the outcome who knows.. GO PIERRE!

sharon meade's avatar

I think Poilievre did a wonderful job interviewing Joe Rogan, He really opened up about his sport before becoming a Podcaster, But the discussion about Politics' was good covering the similar obstacle's that both Countries are dealing with. All in all good.

Allen Dick's avatar

Ouch. What a trerible, unserious start. So far, he would have been better to stay home and not look like a teen fanboy. Joe is surprised and trying not to wonder why Pierre is wasting time on small talk.

Donald Mann's avatar

Go away Allen. Learn to spell! Your surname is appropriate!

Marg's avatar

😂 great response Donald! Whoot!

Darryl Burrows's avatar

Did you actually watch this podcast or just listen to it ? If you watched it you would have seen a mutual respect between both host and guest. These two actually have a lot in common. I had no idea that Poilievre was so into fitness and MMA - he personally knows a lot of the same people Rogan knows. I know nothing about either but it was obvious that they were both having a very relaxed conversation. I kept waiting for some meat - for Pierre to go after the blatant Liberal bias in the Canadian media - but he did not, I kept waiting for him to go after Carney and his whole goal of trying to monitize carbon credits for his own personal gain - it’s the only reason he came back to Canada after GFANZ collapsed. Unfortunately, he is failing in that as we have seen. Just two weeks ago he was in Japan - remember how the CBC were all over him trying to speak Japanese to the new far right Japanese PM ? The CBC could not get over how charming Carney was. Well, he may have been charming but what did he come away from Japan with that helped our trade situation ? Nothing - not even an MOU of some kind - his usual stock in trade. The very next week however - Trump and Japan signed a $ 58 billion dollar oil and LNG deal - an actual iron clad trade deal, not a Carney MOU fake deal. It turns out Japan was not interested in Carney’s “ low carbon” ( whatever that is) more expensive Canadian oil and gas, they went for the more reasonably priced U.S. kind. So much for the coalition of middle powers banding together to stick it to the USA. So - now you can count out both the E. U. and Japan out of that Middle Power club. After the GFANZ collapse - Carney’s reputation amongst the WEF elites was in tatters and he had to find a way to rehabilitate himself and to try to save all of those investments that he had committed Brookfield into. However today, instead of raising any or these issues Poilievre took the high road. He refused to criticize Carney at all - saying he would not do so while in a foreign country - meaning, in case you missed it - that he respected the office Carney holds and he would not demean it or our country when abroad, Very classy. I was especially piqued when he said he has kept in constant communication with Carney on his trip and he was reporting what he was finding out back to him - that is totally fascinating. Liberals in Canada think they know him. They do not. He is a very sincere and humble guy who unlike Carney, does not take himself seriously nor, unlike Carney, does he think he is superior to you. In fact , he thinks the exact opposite. I have seen Poilievre come to tears talking to ordinary Canadians as he hears their life stories. Somehow - I cannot ever imagine Carney doing the same. It is a shame you failed to see these things because it was all pretty evident.

Allen Dick's avatar

I was only commenting on how he started out and watching Joe's expression. It seemed gimmicky. I was expecting a lot from this opportunity and was disappointed at that point. I posted after the first five minutes but kept watching and things got much better. I was called away halfway through so I haven't watched the last half and I haven't really decided what I think. I have watched quite a few Joe Rogan episodes and I thought this one was different.

Darryl Burrows's avatar

I have heard of Rogan but I have never listened or watched. The hype around this was huge so I decided I needed to watch. I am glad I did. I have seen Poilievre in other documentaries and in reports filed while he is campaigning. I knew that he is a really caring guy - I have literally seen him cry when people are telling him about their issues. It’s quite remarkable. I agree with you in this respect - this started out not as I envisioned it - but being in sales for over 40 years I knew exactly what was happening- they were feeling each other out and looking for common ground. It was not what I expected but that is not a bad thing. I enjoyed it. Not sure if I would turn in to Rogan anytime soon. He is a lot deeper than I thought , more well rounded, but I am not a big podcast guy,

Verna Scott's avatar

Agree on the start..but he was trying to gain some ground with a guy that has millions of followers..and us an body builder.. pierre was on his turf..so it worked.. i did not know, but Pierre has a trainer and is into this sport too.

Marg's avatar

And you are a true toting Trudeau & Carney as we know them! Lots and lots of word salad BS!!

Andreas Hartung's avatar

Poilievre’s Rogan performance is polished, but underneath the anecdotes and gym talk it’s full of distortions, omissions, and dangerous policy fantasies that would make Canada poorer, sicker, and more divided.

1. “Freest country on earth” vs his actual record

He sells himself as the champion of freedom, small government and “mind your own damn business” government. In reality, his record and platform point the other way:

He backs sweeping police and prosecutorial powers, “tough on crime” bail rules, and longer incarceration based on anecdotes about a handful of repeat offenders—policies that have historically hit Indigenous and racialized communities hardest, without reducing underlying crime drivers (poverty, addiction, housing).​

He attacks supervised consumption / “safe supply” as “giving out drugs” and insists abstinence‑only treatment is the answer, despite Canadian federal and provincial evidence syntheses showing that harm reduction + OAT drastically reduce mortality and ER usage while abstinence‑only is associated with very high relapse and death rates.​

He promises to “cut fake refugees” and unwind temporary migrants while conceding Canada is a “nation of immigrants” and his own wife used humanitarian pathways for family; he never addresses how his caps and purges would interact with real asylum law, labour shortages, or the reality of mixed‑motive migration.​​

He talks like a civil‑liberties libertarian, but consistently sells a punitive, carceral, surveillance‑state answer when it comes to crime, drugs, borders, and protest. The “freest country on earth” line is branding, not a serious rights agenda.

2. MAID and mental health: moral panic instead of facts

On MAID, he and Rogan lean into the most lurid cases to imply Canada is casually euthanizing the depressed:

Poilievre accepts that MAID has a place for end‑of‑life ALS‑type cases, but then feeds Rogan’s outrage with a story about a “kid” getting MAID for seasonal depression, using it to paint the system as predatory and corrupting public servants.​

He omits that the federal government has repeatedly delayed and tightened MAID for mental illness, that strict eligibility criteria exist (capacity, enduring suffering, multiple assessments), and that the notorious “seasonal depression” case was widely misreported and later discredited by clinicians. Up‑to‑date health‑policy sources do not support his suggestion of an open door for teenagers with the winter blues.

His solution—ban public servants from even mentioning MAID and just “promote fitness” and Viktor Frankl—is sentimental but unserious. Exercise and meaning matter, but they are not an adequate replacement for properly funded psychiatric care, housing, and community supports for people in deep, treatment‑resistant distress.​

He’s using real public discomfort about MAID expansions as a wedge, while ignoring the actual clinical safeguards, the moratoria, and the root cause: a shredded mental health system that his austerity/deficit‑hawk agenda would make worse.

3. Oil sands and “best industry in the world”: outright propaganda

His description of the oil sands on Rogan is propaganda, not analysis:

He tells Rogan Fort McMurray’s open‑pit mines are “the most responsible oil extraction in the world,” that “you wouldn’t even know there was a mine there” after reclamation, and that there is “no impact to groundwater, no impact to the environment.”​

Peer‑reviewed work and Alberta’s own data show: massive tailings ponds covering hundreds of square kilometres; toxic seepage concerns; huge land disturbance; and reclamation proceeding at a tiny fraction of the disturbed area. Even Canada’s federal environment commissioner has flagged chronic under‑provisioning for cleanup. None of this appears in his description.

He declares First Nations “absolutely love” the oil sands and LNG because some communities have secured equity and jobs, without acknowledging the long list of Indigenous nations who are in court against these projects over land rights, contamination, and lack of consent.​

He sells an Alberta‑booster fantasy: no environmental damage, Indigenous people all on board, engineers solving everything. In reality, these projects are profitable and job‑rich but also environmentally destructive, legally contested, and extremely carbon‑intensive. His refusal to admit any downside is intellectually dishonest.

4. Economics: half‑true diagnosis, dangerous cures

His inflation and housing story mixes valid critiques with magical thinking:

He is right that loose monetary policy and asset inflation have transferred wealth from wage‑earners to asset‑holders, and that housing costs have outpaced incomes dramatically. His “10 apples, 20 dollars” explanation of inflation is Econ 101, not some unique insight.​

But his solution set—Swiss‑style hard money, strict no‑net‑new‑spending PAYGO, deep cuts to bureaucracy, foreign aid, “fake refugees,” and corporate welfare—would mean:

Pro‑cyclical austerity in downturns (when automatic stabilizers are most needed).

Slashing exactly the supports (social housing, income supports, public health) that blunt inequality and demand spikes.

Freezing or cutting climate, Indigenous, and infrastructure spending under the label of “waste.”​

He pretends you can “unlock resources, cut red tape, balance budgets, and everything gets cheaper” without confronting:

Global oil demand volatility and the risk of stranded assets.

That rapid deregulation and compressed project assessments increase catastrophic‑risk tails (tailings dams, spills, fires).

That Canada’s home‑price explosion is as much about financialization, zoning, short‑term rentals, and provincial policy as “federal gatekeepers.”

He diagnoses a real problem—asset‑inflation‑driven inequality—and prescribes a mix of 1990s austerity, Reagan‑era “drill, baby, drill,” and simplistic demonization of migrants and bureaucrats.

5. Crime, drugs, and “soft on crime” myths

His crime segment with Rogan is a greatest‑hits of evidence‑free “common sense” tough talk:

Poilievre cites Vancouver re‑arresting the same 40 people 6,000 times and a Penticton offender whose release makes crime spike, using this to argue for much harsher bail.​

He offers zero data on:

What proportion of crime is actually committed by that tiny cohort.

Whether longer detention reduces re‑offending after eventual release.

The role of poverty, severe addiction, and housing insecurity in that pattern.

On opioids, he acknowledges the Sackler fraud and massive death toll, then pivots to say “government giving safer opioids” made it worse and that abstinence‑based treatment “works” and is “very successful”—contrary to Canadian and US evidence showing:

OAT (methadone/buprenorphine) and supervised consumption substantially reduce deaths and infections.

Abstinence‑only has high relapse and overdose rates, especially post‑detox.​

He wraps punitive carceral policy and abstinence‑only ideology in stories of grieving mothers and troubled small towns, while erasing what actually works in harm reduction and sentencing reform.

6. Immigration and “fake refugees”

His talk about “fake refugees” and unwinding temporary migration is vague, inflammatory, and hypocritical:

He says Canada is paying “fake refugees” who “pretend” to be in danger; his solution is to cut support and force people out “lawfully” when permits expire.​

He never defines how he would distinguish “fake” from “real” in practice beyond the legal process that already exists (IRB, PRRA, H&C). He ignores how often H&C is used for people who are not Convention refugees but have strong establishment and hardship factors—exactly the route his own extended family used.

He brushes aside the role of international students and TFWs in propping up underfunded universities, eldercare, agriculture, and low‑wage sectors, then blames them for a housing crisis driven by policy choices and investor speculation.​

The subtext for Rogan’s US audience is clear: Poilievre is Canada’s own anti‑“illegals” candidate, minus Trump’s vulgarities. The policy substance is crude and selective.

7. The performance itself: marketing, not seriousness

Finally, the Rogan appearance is a carefully engineered brand‑building exercise, not a serious policy interview:

He spends large chunks of time on kettlebells, GSP, Bruce Lee, Victor Frankl, Bobby Orr, jiu‑jitsu, baby formula, McDonald’s burgers, his apple meme—curated masculinity and “common sense” stories designed to soften and humanize him for a US audience.​

Rogan gives him almost no hard pushback on any Canadian policy claim—MAID numbers, oil sands impacts, Indigenous consent, opioid treatment, refugee law, or Alberta’s emissions profile. Instead, Joe repeatedly marvels, “How the hell did you lose? It all sounds amazing.”​

Poilievre uses that uncritical space to launder a very aggressive agenda—mass deregulation, fossil expansion, carceral sentencing, migration crackdown, Swiss‑style austerity—under the language of freedom, fitness, and family.

Darryl Burrows's avatar

Why bother even responding to this claptrap of twisted facts and misinformation. This clown is too far gone to even reason with. Luckily- he only gets one vote.

Marcie's avatar

I see you are making the same post on a lot of substacks. Not getting too many likes though.

Andreas Hartung's avatar

Of course not. The truth hurts.

Robe Pettigrew's avatar

It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't spend all their time fanboying over MMA and small talk about farming practices. Very little content and disappointing comments about Alberta. Have to say I am unimpressed with PP over this, though a lot of insights into this character about what he chooses to talk about. What is more disconcerting though is his dismissive comment on Alberta separation and has essentially confirmed that electing the Conservatives into power won’t change anything; time for Alberta to leave.

Michelle Bradshaw's avatar

Poilievre gives an American another way to throw Canada around. Does he think that what's happening right now is not doing enough damage? FFS