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Brian Rushfeldt's avatar

there will NEVER be a pipeline west. Carney has set in place so many barriers it will never happen. He is so crooked and scheming and lies on every turn. build south AB into the US and IGNORE any Federal involvement.

Carole Saville's avatar

If Carney was serious, and wanted to build at speeds not seen in generations, why is he not committing to the pipeline in September 2027.

Personally I believe that this is just a way to gas light Albertans on the fence about independence.

Don's avatar

Pretty sure that's been Danielle's plan all along..that's one of the reasons she met with Trump the first time months ago..

Carole Saville's avatar

I hope that is what she plans - I guess that having Ottawa drop some of the most egregious polices is something, but they should be dropped anyway if Carney is serious about being an energy superpower.

Christine Barnett's avatar

But Carney’s definition of an energy super power would minimize oil production and reliance…and a definition of LNG would not be its present use.

Solar, wind, nuclear, hydrogen , AI, ALL technologies based on renewable non fossil based energy projects are his(and WEF members) priorities.

Apparently, delays are his strategy. He is determined to NOT to sideline his climate change initiatives.

Not sure where transformations and speeds like never seen before plays out. Presently, we seem to be at a stand still. Rhetoric never gets things done.

Don's avatar

I think he wants China to be the energy superpower..??

Ken's avatar

Wouldn’t be a bit surprised

Carole Saville's avatar

Words out of Carney's mouth: “Aspiration without effort is just empty rhetoric.”

I think that he says these things to prove that at least some of his resume was true, and why people in Canada fall for this is way beyond me.

Donald Ashman's avatar

You make a good point, Brian.

Wester Ranta's avatar

CCS is just a ridiculous waste of time and money and could become a real danger to lives later on. I'm on board with Eric Nuttal - but more importantly, I'm quite certain that nothing will be announced in Sept 27. Nothing ever gets done on time or on budget in this country. I despair, but then again, I think Canada would be a better place for all if it was 4 or 5 smaller countries, like Fennoscandia.

Don's avatar

.." I'm quite certain that nothing will be announced in Sept 27."

..🎯..yup...but Sept '27 brings us closer to 2030...THAT's what Carney's feet dragging has been about all along..(sure wouldn't want him on my Tug 'O War team)..🤔

Carole Saville's avatar

I agree that Canada is too big and too diverse to be one country, especially when it is lead by ideologists who are far more concerned about staying in power than the people who live in Canada.

Why didn't Carney designate of a new pipeline as a “project of national interest”. He says that will happen in September 2027 - if it was designated as a “project of national interest” we would be able to consult with the FN's and try and meet their demands, but honestly, their demands never end. As a project of national interest, we could move ahead without there Carney induced Veto power.

Jerry Grant's avatar

I don't think anyone would call Boundary Dam CCS project in Saskatchewan a success.

Westerngirlgo's avatar

I support our Premier Smith, but I will also be voting yes for separation when the time comes* (if Smith leads our new separatist government Alberta will definitely prosper). Carney is moving way way way too slowly - especially as other countries do what we need to be doing (liberal government speed as you said, Brian, so he gets no stars from me.) I’ll believe it when I see it…. Refer to the “all hat, no cattle” thing.

* if not I will probably have to join the rest of my family who have already moved to the US.

PS enjoy the weekend - we might be putting our on skis back on in Alberta by Monday. (This is what we call moisture so I’ll take it in solid or liquid form).

Carole Saville's avatar

With all of Carney's roadblocks, at best, a pipeline would not be completed for 8 or more years.

I was out walking in subzero temperatures in central Alberta this morning - should have worn my lined pants. Have a great weekend yourself.

Don's avatar

When I moved out to Cgy in '77, my first May long weekend, a cpl of us Ontario boys just had sleeping bags to lay around the firepit at bed time..woke up the middle of the night..shivering and shaking like a dog shittin' razorblades!!..🤣 .🥶

Carole Saville's avatar

I agree with Rempel Garner's substack:

Canada is still tying its laces in the global energy race. And, who can argue with her.

This is not a win for Alberta.

What is the worst thing that would happen if Smith turned down Carney’s fake pipeline offer.

Ottawa needs Alberta oil now. If Alberta says NO to his carbon pricing and his carbon capture scam what is the 'world leader' going to do. Carney just proposed a trillion-dollar expansion of the power grid and would not say who would pay for it. Analysts have warned of substantially higher costs for ratepayers. Carney's Ottawa is so far in debt that Alberta oil and especially Alberta money is what he needs.

Alberta really don’t need to go east and west; the US will buy all the oil we can sell them.

Either Carney drops every stupid policy that hampers Alberta, and if he doesn’t, nothing really changes for Alberta, except we create even closer ties with the US.

John Powell's avatar

No doubt net zero is a failure. So is Carneys latest ruse to keep the rabble quiet.

Smith has no choice but make the best of a rotten, corrupt deal.

This entire carbon tax and carbon capture nonsense is a massive, costly deception.

The UAE, faced with the Iranian attempted hostage of the straights of Hormuz have announced a new pipeline.

Finished and ready in 2027.

Let that sink in …

Clarington just announced a new project :This involves building a new above-grade rail bridge next to the existing CPKC rail bridge reconstruction on Green Rd ; to be ready in 2028

You tube videos show the Germans replacing a highway overpass last year.

Overnight.

Canada is a third world economy now.

UK is the blueprint.

Carole Saville's avatar

Martha Hall Findlay who was bullish on carbon capture, has changed her tune and now is speaking out on carbon capture projects. She says, and I concur, that the world has changed, and that “…Canada must prioritize limited resources for economic prosperity over expensive emission-reduction projects whose costs are uncertain.”

We all knew that Carney wanted to shut down oil and gas, and certainly Albertans know that this new agreement is destined for the bottom of a bird cage.

John Powell's avatar

Brian if O’Leary says New York Massachusetts New Jersey California are “ un-investable ” due to regulatory impediments and taxation “ what is Carney doing to Canada ?

It’s clear. A trillion dollars of investment has left Canada.

Gone.

Today: “Eby’s stance remains firm against a new pipe line”

Aintgonnahappendotcom

John Powell's avatar

Carole I saw that interview. The more I learn of carbon capture the more I realize it’s a liberal deception ,just like Carneys very being, to support his failed net zero ideology. I’m watching on you tube in real time the UK citizenry marching for Great Britain.

Characterized as “ far right” Starmer has denied entry to 11 speakers for this event some are EU parliamentarians.

Starmer and Carney are very similar. Equally dishonest.

John Powell's avatar

For those without Grok struggling with the erudite Lilley’s headline: ( I had to do it myself lol)

“Danegeld (literally “Dane yield” or “Dane payment”) was a tax levied in medieval England (and sometimes in parts of Francia) primarily to pay tribute to Viking (especially Danish) raiders, in exchange for them stopping their attacks and leaving the land in peace”

C Woody's avatar

The can has been kicked yet again with some grand pageantry, handshakes and signings of each other’s yearbooks. As an Albertan, I can appreciate what Danielle Smith is doing. Fighting for her province and its livelihood, as well as her political future. But as a pipeliner who has actually worked in the “trenches” for 30 years, we are no closer to a pipeline west or any direction than we were when the government of the coiffed prime minister cancelled the Northern Gateway and Energy East projects. The CER regulations, red tape and environmental impact nonsense will effectively stall this and any other major pipeline project, if it even gets past the indigenous consultation phase…which itself is not likely. I’ve seen projects grind to a halt because a dead frog was found on the right of way. The job was shut down and environmental investigators were brought out to determine if a frog nesting ground was disrupted. For all we knew, the frog could have died of natural causes! So a frog takes precedence over the economy of a nation, now we add in all the “green” regulations. It’s absolute insanity. As far as the Keystone XL revival that Trump is asking for yet again after he brought it back to life in 2020, only to have Biden cancel it 8 months later, that is another issue entirely. I worked on that project when it was cancelled. Approximately 150 km of pipe is in the ground in central Alberta between Monitor and the South Saskatchewan River. It sits buried, capped with a rust inhibitor and nitrogen purge inside to preserve the pipe integrity. The stockpiles of the remaining pipe have been sitting in storage yards since 2012, slowly rusting and the protective outer coating baked off by 12 years of prairie sunshine. The pipe is effectively scrap. TC energy washed their hands of the project in 2021 when it was buried. TC had fought to get the project revived after it was cancelled by the Obama administration in 2012, right after the two major river crossings were completed on the Red Deer and South Saskatchewan rivers. There will be no proponent who will take on this project either, the cost will be tremendous and the route has now been changed to completely cross southern Saskatchewan and into North Dakota, instead of straight south into Montana. Again more environmental hurdles. Two major projects that in my experience are nothing more than “sound bites” to keep the people hopeful. Canadas fate has been sealed by Mr Carney and his green scheme, he will let the regulators, environmentalists and Indigenous do his dirty work and prevent them from ever breaking ground on a single project. He can claim that he tried, but the people have decided that it’s not in the interests of the country.

Apologies for the long rant, sometimes it’s hard to sit back and listen to the social media experts that come out of the woodwork claiming that “shovels will be in the ground soon”,or “the Keystone is already built”. I’ve witnessed the horror of the “dead frog” shutting down a multi million dollar operation and sending workers home. The “horror” of the virtuous.

Doug Stephens's avatar

The IPCC has recently admitted that their climate modelling used over the last number of years to predict their climate apocalypse and " oceans boiling" nonsense were wrong and are being updated.

The snake Carney and his Net Zero/ CCS scam is all nonsense, but a heck of a money grab from taxpayers.

William Mitton's avatar

Sounds reasonable, except for one major problem.

HELL will freeze over before it actually happens.

This is merely a way to shut down the Alberta

Independence Movement, and sadly, it appears to

be working.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Not only Canada. The entire country. Either maybe the exception of Quebec.

Lis's avatar

Any deal that still needs approvals 1-1/2 years out is not a deal. It’s a delay tactic by Carney. No investor is going to sign up. I wonder if Premier Smith is taking too much political risk here by not calling that out - at least in the long run. Carney just seems to get away with “fooling” Canadians.

Carole Saville's avatar

Why would the consultations take so long. We have consulted and determined pipeline routes a decade ago. As you say, simply a delay tactic as well as an effort to calm down the goal of independence in Alberta

Mary Lucas's avatar

It seems bizarre to me that a project that will strengthen Canada's economy a province has to actually fight with Ottawa to make any progress -- it is counter productive and damages any sense of one nation. Greenies should start looking at what impact all these environmental efforts actually have on the climate -- exactly none.

Rose_Anne's avatar

The west coast tanker ban is still in place.

hebrews9v27's avatar

Mr Lilley, it's time you stepped out and up and did a thorough job of researching Carney's connections, his convictions through his own words, and the Degrowth of Canada that was started with Pierre Elliott Trudeau alongside the Klaus Schwab /WEF, UN and the IMF (and the EU if we are honest). Liberal voters refuse to see the connection and we're beyond this being a conspiracy theory. Carney is not here for Canada. He's here for the NWO, his direction is to destroy the current system Canada is in and reset the world system at our expense. Every single person who is following along knows this. Our resources will be under foreign control if we continue this route. Our rights and freedoms are being chipped away at slowly under the guise of "security". We need strong media leaders, like yourself, to stand up now and get the information out. We know the CBC won't. It may not be mainline news but it must be said. PLEASE start the ball rolling.

John Chittick's avatar

Agreed. Another analogy would be that the ransom is actually a Jizya paid to the believers by the infidels not on the green theocracy reservation, while the more devout (lobbying) "NGOs" stick to carbon Jihad.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Yes, unfortunately taxes, however you name them, are inevitable. They should levied on the population, for the sole purpose of investing in their countries and their people within. Not for their self serving interests.

I doubt that anyone doesn’t agree with improving human interaction with the vast global natural environment.

So … you need these “taxes” to invest in profitable and effective major national projects… for the country’s economy…the ENTIRE country. Political advancement aside. Is this not what a textbook analysis of a democratic process should be?

This process should have a defined plan, intelligent input from those with industrial acumen, alliances for timelines, contingency plans, and a consensus of opinion of coordinated EXPERTS (in combined fields) to enact profitable investments for all factions involved.

The financial outlook would enable a governing body the financial means to GROW the entire economic national base. From entrepreneurs, to small business to corporations.

This would NOT include a “new world order” strategy.

In my opinion, “likeminded” nations would remain cooperative in trade and culture. And sovereignty.

Intelligence, open minded input and common sense.

Donald Ashman's avatar

Danielle Smith has played her cards perfectly.

The great crisis management expert and game theory specialist? Not so much.

If the pipeline fails to get constructed, he will wear it all; he will wear the blame and he will have deserved every bit.