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Carmen's avatar

Carney was a a full on liar!! I don’t like trumps crap either but carney never has had any intentions of saving this country!! Scary times we are living in!!

Brian Rushfeldt's avatar

true WEF and global crap in his plan.

Doug Stephens's avatar

It certainly is.

This 9 minute video is worth watching.

https://youtu.be/5H4EHRy_0AY?si=N1m-qDSjZ-9c1atB

Brian's avatar

Watched the video, very informative and confirmed mostly what I thought all along. Mark Carney is the devil incarnate. Backing away from the trade deal is making him look like he is the savior for Canada and the elbows up crowd in full TDS mode are sucking it up. In reality this is just another chapter of the man selected to lead us down the path of no return.

Doug Stephens's avatar

And it makes even more sense when you consider the snake Carney was a behind the scenes " advisor" to the Liberal Regime for 5 years before being placed in the PM position.

No doubt setting up policies to align with Brookfield's strategies.

John's avatar

Canada is WEF's version of ideal fertile grounds for their social engineering and Carney is a WEF ghoul.....destroying the will of this country gives him jollies and street cred at the UN

wanderer's avatar

He opens his mouth and it is a lie!

Tomas's avatar

We still can't get trade between provinces to be open and free, forget about the US

Donald Ashman's avatar

To be fair, Tomas, we really aren’t good-faith free traders, and we never have been.

John's avatar

Truth is the mountain Carney falls on is Quebec Dairy....the spoiled children of Canada are like our inbred version of the East Asians out west......enough of them to swing the votes in tandem.....Saputo has more power than any western premier.

Steve Barry's avatar

Time for western Canadian farmers to organize their own cartel and cut out Quebec and Ontario.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Why not just create independent sovereign provinces (Newly initiated countries)

Carole Saville's avatar

That is a great idea. The cartel rules are different for the east and the west, and strangely, the east gets the better deal. The west pays again.

jacklynw's avatar

Dairy is likely a large part of the reason trade negotiations broke down

Christine Barnett's avatar

And the connections with China. And not just trade.

Verna Scott's avatar

Right talk about protectionism. We do it.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Exactly, my point. Maybe Albert’s on the right track. And on a side note…explanation of the numerous investments allotted to Quebec in recent days. The Laurentien Elite working double time perhaps.. when does the rest of Canada get a “piece of the action?? Totally unacceptable Federal government behaviour.

Geoff Moore's avatar

We're being used as a pawn of China in their war with the US. French language labeling and the Quebec dairy cartel, are also useful because without there'd be separation talk in 2 provinces. And Liberal's would lose votes. This country is doomed.

Rick Steward's avatar

You are so right. Sad but true.

Donald Ashman's avatar

I don’t think we are doomed, Geoff.

But I think we have to discover a new way of doing things.

We tried it their way, and their way doesn’t work.

Geoff Moore's avatar

If you thought a lot of businesses closed during the pandemic, especially small business; just wait.

Donald Ashman's avatar

That is already happening, Geoff.

In the last six consecutive quarters. There have been more businesses close in Canada than have opened.

We have a serious entrepreneurial deficit in our Country.

Donald Ashman's avatar

I would be happy to suggest a host of ideas, Christine.

But I live in a Country, a Province, and a City where ideas go to die.

wanderer's avatar

You are exactly right@

Chris George's avatar

Mark Carney's strategic partnership (and all the secret deals from police to media) with Beijing is an underlining factor that is not being given enough inspection by Canadian media. Bottom line: Washington does not trust Ottawa and views Canada suspiciously when it comes to Chinese money laundering, intelligence, policing, and what we have promised the CCP relating to EVs, resource trade - including critical minerals, the arctic, etc. The trade negotiations did not take place in isolation of other foreign affairs matters.

Halb Bitter's avatar

Yes. Carney actually mentioned China, without mentioning China. US wants to limit our "free trade" with some mysterious unnamed countries, he said.

The Modern Mantuamaker's avatar

Indeed. For how often Brian chats with Sam Cooper he doesn't seem to make this connection.

Ed Y.'s avatar

Kevin is the perfect example of the brainwashed Canadian spouting corporate talking points and insults.

Christine Barnett's avatar

I think he probably does, but…

Christine Barnett's avatar

Right en point. China and the Muslim Islamic influences. Canadians are regarded as non entities. And this governing power is blind to, or in agreement with both their presences…over and above Canadian citizens. It will only get worse if CSIS doesn’t intervene. And Carney begins to understand humanity over “boardroom directives”.

Kevin 🇨🇦's avatar

Oh please give us your information on Carney and his “secret deal” with China.

Richard Blackwell's avatar

Kevin, if you are skeptical of the Chinese influence in this country look at BC. Money laundering, drug flow, to start. Listen to reporters like Sam Cooper.

Doug Stephens's avatar

Add Scott McGregor and Gary Clement to the list with Sam Cooper.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Add Chris George to the list.

Kevin 🇨🇦's avatar

No thanks. I have better things to do than kick over rocks looking for any conspiracy theory that crawls out. But this Carney/China WEF linkage thing is such tiresome bs. We have bigger issues than worrying about imaginary threats. If China is a legitimate threat then let CSIS handle it, that’s their job.

Doyle Lefebvre's avatar

Kevin, you sound like you've been jabbed and boosted at least 4 times. Everything presented to you by non-legacy sources is 'conspiracy theory'. You aren't waking up anytime soon. The media doesn't dig into anything that would shed light on their paymasters, and when something negative surfaces about the people they get their survival money from, they cover it with attacks on Pierre or other conservatives, but you can't see through their shell game. The reason Richard and Doug referred Cooper, McGregor, and Clement to you is because those investigators do the 'kicking over rocks', the digging, the investigating, that the media and CSIS won't do. You don't have to do any of that, you're not qualified, you wouldn't even know where to start. They show their work, they bring receipts. They've proven they are worth paying attention to through their track record; they are trustworthy, they have no agenda other than revealing the truth. That's what all the legacy media holdouts keep saying, 'you can't trust independent news', (yes, there is a lot of crap online, too) but you won't wake up until you take referrals you get, test them yourself, and you'll realize that you've been fooled for most of your life and Canada is already gone, if it ever really existed the way we imagined in the first place.

Kevin 🇨🇦's avatar

Based on your post you probably believe that polio and measles are fake and that Dr. Fauci should be burned at the stake. Or whatever you people believe. And Canada isn’t “gone”, it’s just dealing with a case of rage baiters.

Doyle Lefebvre's avatar

No rebuttal as to why you shouldn't follow the referrals, just divert to 'stuff' you are programmed to think 'we people' believe. Your complete obedience and complicity with the government, media, Big pharma shines through in your response, adding silliness to a pointless conversation. "It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled". Anyone who's awake can see in your words where exactly you get ALL of your info, because they aren't your words. They've been drilled into your psyche daily for months and years by a media complex that tailors their message to accomplish their goal of fooling their viewers/readers/listeners. It's like addiction, no one can quit for you, you have to take the steps yourself. Step one, actually watch a short video someone refers to you about mass psychosis, and maybe it'll turn on a small light bulb in your head that makes you understand that you may have been lied to. Try it out. Here's a great video explaining this mass psychosis. Just try it. https://youtu.be/09maaUaRT4M

Good luck.

Kimmer's avatar

With AGENT Theresa Tam, and AGENT Howard Njoo and Tedros, perfect! and the missing Winnipeg Level 4 Bio Lab Scientists!

Richard Blackwell's avatar

IMO, Fauci, Trudeau and Tam should be subjected to the jab on a monthly basis while serving life sentences for crimes against humanity !

Christine Barnett's avatar

It’s obvious real dialogue is not your forte. Mist intelligent curious individuals would question and listen to options. You may or may not agree we seldom agree on all subjects. However, it wouldn’t hurt to hear and understand both sides of the equation. Sometimes the lightbulb does go on!😉no offence intended.

Christine Barnett's avatar

They ARE “doing their job”. The government agencies and the judicial system isn’t cooperating. Please try to understand the entire picture. As far as “imaginary threats”…I pity you when those threats are revealed as reality.

Kevin 🇨🇦's avatar

Real threats are revealed? LOL. You are going on about Chinese threats and “secret Carney deals” at the exact moment that a corrupt, unhinged American regime is OPENLY attacking Canada economically and actually threatening our sovereignty as a country. Talk about missing the forest for the trees. Does China try to secretly influence the affairs of other countries? Sure, but on the scale of threat we are facing right now, that barely rates. Let CSIS deal with it. And no, CSIS is not a secret agency intent on following Carney’s orders to enslave humanity on behalf of the global elites. If you want a real conspiracy, why not look at the US - and ask how an group of billionaire oligarchs can install a puppet as US president that is actively undermining democracy, openly supports Russia and North Korea, grifting and stealing from the American people, and some people here believe that Mark Carney is the problem. You can’t make this stuff up.

Christine Barnett's avatar

I really can’t follow your comments. CSIS, a secret agency following Carney’s orders to end Jace humanity on behalf of the global elites???? Where are you getting this ridiculous misinformation?

And those “billionaire oligarchs” and their affiliations with corporations, organizations and governments , ARE the force supporting the 2015/2030 UN SUMMIT AGREEMENTS. Our Liberals, the US Democrats, the UK revolving leadership, the EU…among numerous nations conforming to the One World Order.

Your exulted leader was the orchestrator and now facilitator of that global framework.

That same leader seems to be thumbing his nose at one of the superpowers (the US) that this group wants to eliminate…YET, aligns his interests (Canada/WEF/UN) and allegiance with the second global superpower…CHINA. Ironic, no?

Remember Carney’s Davos speech…NO super powers, only middle powers with the same mindset.

The Chinese are notorious for patience and coercion and massive networks of “cooperation”.

This transformation has been decades in the making. The Democrats, the Laurentian elite, the monarchy. Widen your narrow horizons. Research well respected journalists. You might be shockingly surprised.

Richard Blackwell's avatar

Kevin, IMO you suffer from TDS ! Sorry to break it to you like this. Having read the majority of your comments there is no other conclusion ! Do you routinely dismiss advice and alternate forms of information ? Do you believe MSM ? Do you still wear a bankers pinstrip when watching a Carney interview ? There is no known cure ! You should move to the EU or London. You will feel at home there !

Christine Barnett's avatar

WEF “thing”. ?? If you don’t put any credit in online comments…feel free to read the WEF WEEKLY NEWSLETTER. straight from the horse’s mouth…so to speak. This is our future…in black and white.

Richard Blackwell's avatar

Do you identify with Carney because of your resume ?

Kevin 🇨🇦's avatar

Yes, and also because I have the ability to think critically.

Richard Blackwell's avatar

The trade war is what Carney, Ford, Eby and Kinew want I

Your monkey mind does not have that capability. If it did you would consider the facts, not be so dismissive ! Even the monkey, using the 100 monkey effect theory, learned to evolve. What is taking you so long ?

Jerry Grant's avatar

We don't know what is in our deals with China. They ARE secret.

Christine Barnett's avatar

“Strategic deal”😉

Christine Barnett's avatar

Do you not think that Carney should elaborate in his 2025 January “strategic deal with China”. Which, by the way, includes security and policing. .

Kevin 🇨🇦's avatar

That is a total fabrication. The deal with China involved lifting tariffs on canola and some seafood in exchange for allowing a small number of Chinese EVs for sales here. That’s it.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Naive. I think you’re past the point of no return.

Kevin 🇨🇦's avatar

Someone asking for Carney to elaborate on “his strategic deal with China” is not offering any facts.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Neither is Carney. Follow the money and let coercion trail. The existence of infiltration in Canada’s infrastructure has been present for years if not decades. Keep an eye on further “purchases” and “investment” awarded to Chinese enterprises.

Side note. What company purchased certain Condos from developers in BC??

Christine Barnett's avatar

But revealing of any omission of facts.

Christine Barnett's avatar

The “facts” should be transparent and come from the Carney Group.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Really! Interesting. I pity those with little to no knowledge, merely opinions.

Kimmer's avatar

Are you from California, Gavin neck of CA

Halb Bitter's avatar

I don't know Brian... listening to Carney's comments, I feel he's being quite elusive and evasive. In my opinion, Carney wanted the negotiations to fail, and he succeeded in that.

Brian's avatar

Exactly! He has absolutely no interest in the prosperity of the country or it's people.

Halb Bitter's avatar

Yes. My impression, he doesn't care what happens to Canada. He'll just leave Canada for UK or something.

Kimmer's avatar

I dont think he can go to UK either, he burned those bridges when he was Governor of Bank of England, unless he becomes PM in UK

Halb Bitter's avatar

Ok, he has learned some French recently, so I guess he has more options now.

Kimmer's avatar

Maybe Mandarin would probably a better option! then he wont need Ma or Chen!

Christine Barnett's avatar

Aaah! Now you hit the nail on the head. One only has to reference very recent investments awarded to Quebec. (Aka Laurentian Elite)

Kimmer's avatar

Mandarin would probably be a better option, then he wont need Ma or Chen!

Christine Barnett's avatar

It certainly won’t be his permanent base. He’s reinventing the role of PM. He has no defined interest in politics, only in alliances. And not allegiances. Notably Canadian.

Christine Barnett's avatar

He is only using Canada to further his One World Order concept. Canadians can be Sooo compliant and mailable.

Doug's avatar

Laurentian Capitalism is based on trade barriers. The oligarchs want a return to pre-free trade.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Agreed. His representatives had over a year and a half to engage in talks. Why wait till the last minute. Something stinks to high heaven here! N’est pas??

Tracy Wilmadean's avatar

All bad news. Now they will retaliate on our tariffs. It is unfortunate we are not in a better position after 11 years of foolish policies. Totally agree with Brian. We should have been simplifying and lowering taxes, encouraging small business, cutting wasteful spending, getting rid of red tape, regulations, interprovincial trade barriers and cutting wasteful spending. I understand the need for new deals with other countries but Carney needs to concentrate on improving THIS country. Big, sweeping real changes - not more bureaucracies promising change at speeds not seen in generations. Still waiting….

Christine Barnett's avatar

I wouldn’t count on Carney improving anything for Canadians per se. His objectives are globalist related. Humanitarian concept are not in cards. .

jacklynw's avatar

Carney has never put Canada first. Taxpayers have a right to know the details as to exactly why trade negotiations broke down. Carney will never reveal all, but let's hope Trumpp does. Trump is childish, but he does put the U.S. first and Carney intentionally pokes the bear. Carney is not and was never the ideal leader to deal with Trump. He also not fit to be Canada's PM. Canada is far worse off since he's had his fingers in the pie, starting in 2020 when he became Trudeau's handler!!!

Christine Barnett's avatar

B I N G O !!! Couldn’t have said it better. Thank you.

Brian Rushfeldt's avatar

such lies , we are a weak nation... our national debt is massive , our GDP is down, interest rates are still too high, cost of living out of control, no pipelines agreed to, no supposed deal with other nations showing any results, bankruptcies and foreclosures up, and C$ still weak... he is such an immoral liar and yet dumb Canadians are being sucked in with his "charming lies".

John Powell's avatar

Loonie will collapse ; the intransigence of this amoral prime minister knows no bounds. And still the elbows up TDS followers flex. Fk.

John Powell's avatar

Scugog township a small municipality of 20,000 has 90 homes in tax arrears ready to foreclose. It’s an Orwellian nightmare

Pat's avatar

Your stupidity is amazing

Brian Rushfeldt's avatar

ah so you do not believe in facts above... ask any intelligent person and they will help you.

John's avatar

Boggles the mind to imagine adults with brains swallowing Carney's bs....elbows up my ar_e......he goes down to the WH and gets on his knees then brags up here.....his wife lives in the US, his kids go to school there, he owns a home there.....90% of his investments are in the US.....and the elbows up sillies get their juice out of hating Trump.....i wish POTUS would put 100% tariffs on Ontario goods and bring that house of cards down.

Rene Wells's avatar

I was inclined to say "not so fast, Mr. Lilley," but I'll fall back on the colloquial Canadian preamble of "I'm sorry." I don't trust anything coming out of Ottawa, their paternalistic attitude (or maternal, depending on who's standing before the microphones - hello Chrystia!) of knowing what's best for us, their habit of controlling what they think we need to know, and their practice of giving standard non-answers to questions posed by reporters, instead sticking to prepared speaking points. They seem to get in the way of much-needed transparency in government.

I'm reserving judgment until more information is revealed. And, unlike many in this federation these days about all things American, I'll resist the urge to let emotions cloud my judgment...

Sandra D Barber's avatar

Mark Carney has proven from day one that he was elected this: he is not interested in Canada, period, that he is only in interested in the dictates of the World Economic Forum because this is who controls him, It is the Davos crowd, firm followers of Marxism and Socialism, using the working people to pay for everything. It has never worked anywhere. If one studied history they would find this out for themselves. History has shown this. And IMHO Canada and and the world will suffer the most financial collapse, ever. His failure in Great Britain proves it. Educate yourselves.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Something I keep preaching. Maybe one day MSN will wake up and do the right thing. Inform Canadians of the WHOLE truth…and nothing but the truth! 🤞🏼

Diane Wood's avatar

Didn't see in your reporting any comments on Carney's constant choice to do Beijing's bidding throughout his year and half supposedly negotiating in the best interests of Canadian workers.

What did we think would happen when we declared the PRC our New Strategic Partner in a New World Order and our former US "Relationship ...over"? And imported Chinese EVs. He has trashed Trump and the USA constantly and simpered for the Davos crowd. Now Canadian workers will pay the price as our economy disintegrates. Selfish, self-interested, arrogant Brookfield elitist.

wanderer's avatar

The US will not tolerate bordering a communist country! Carnage is endangering Canadians safety!

shelley carrington's avatar

Advantage Alberta Independence! Who needs this Jackass of a PM! Terrible decisions or not, a year and avoidance to get the job done no instead playing a game of insults poking the bear & falls right into the lap of China, exactly what XI wants! Not only incompetent but totally ignorant 🤬

James's avatar

At least there is that silver lining

Ed Robbins's avatar

What better, easier way to move Canada closer to China? Then build government pipelines West, forcing Alberta into China's embrace as well.

Jerry Grant's avatar

We will replace their dwindling labour force.

Equally Canadian's avatar

The deal they blew in October was apparently better; this wasn’t a good deal but not having a deal will cost many more good hardworking Canadians their jobs. It’s a shame Carney didn’t actually do the job he was elected for and get right to work when he was elected with actual diplomacy and good faith bargaining instead of his elbows up crap, behaving like a child and poking the bear all to empower himself at the expense of Canadians and our manufacturing sector. I’m sure cozying up to China helped immensely too.

The Modern Mantuamaker's avatar

Nothing that comes out of Carney's mouth can be trusted. He gave no real, solid specifics, just his spin. I can believe this deal was going to be tough for Canada to swallow. I can believe there were last minute additions/changes from the US that we also wouldn't like. But I'm holding off final judgement until all actual details are released - not by Carney or any source connected to him. I imagine and hope the details will be released or leaked at some point and will look to independent media for more accurate coverage than anything out of Carney and his paid-for media.