It’s unfortunate that you didn’t pay more attention to what was happening at the Ostrich Farm in Edgewood, BC and the determination of the CFIA to cull/kill 300+ birds. It’s only been going on for 11 months. And more importantly since September when the Supreme Court issued a ‘stay’ so the judges could decide whether or not the Farm’s appeal would be heard. The Supreme Court announced today that they would not be hearing the appeal.
So CFIA now gets to kill the birds without testing to prove that the birds are sick.
No doubt CFIA refused to test because the entire world has seen how healthy the WELL-CARED FOR OSTRICHES ARE AND NONE OF THEM APPEAR TO BE SICK AT ALL AS THEY RUN AWAY TO TRY TO STAY ALIVE!!! THIS IS THE EPITOME OF OVERREACH AND ANIMAL CRUELTY BY THE GOVERNMENT AND CFIA. TIME TO GET RID OF SUCH A CRUEL AND EXTREMELY IDIOTIC LIBERAL GOVERNMENT. DISGUSTING!! INHUMANE - CRUELTY TO THESE BEAUTIFUL BIRDS SHOULD BE MET WITH A $330 MILLION DOLLAR FINE TO BE PAID TO THE OSTRICH FARM, AND JAIL WITHOUT BAIL FOR THEIR MURDERERS ALONG WITH ONE HE** OF A LONG TIME BEHIND BARS FOR CRUELTY TO ANIMALS. BY THE WAY, WHY DID ALL OF THE USUALLY VOCAL ANIMAL RIGHTS PEOPLE GO MIA TO PROTECT THE HEALTHY, BELOVED AND WELL-CARED FOR OSTRICHES??? THAT IS SUCH A MYSTERY TO ME.
AND WE MOST DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT CORRAL AND MURDER THE OSTRICHES. THIS ALONE IS NOT ONLY INSANE OVERREACH, BUT A DISGUSTING ACT THAT HAS BEEN SEEN GLOBALLY. THIS ACT MAY BE THE DEATH KNELL TO OUR GLOBAL REPUTATION. CAN WE SUE FOR REPUTATIONAL DAMAGE TO ALL CANADIANS?? FIRST THE FREEDOM CONVOY ATTACK AND NOW THE MURDER OF BEAUTIFUL OSTRICHES. WOW! WHAT IS OUR FLAG WORTH NOW??? WE HAVE A BRAIN DEAD LIBERAL GOVERNMENT . WE ARE NOT GETTING OUR TAXPAID MONEY'S WORTH FROM THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT.
IT STARTS IN OUR OWN HOMES...AND IN THE SCHOOLS IF WE CAN GET RID OF THE UNEDUCATED WOKE TEACHERS...AND IN OUR COMPROMISED COURTS. AND OBVIOUSLY OUR RCMP AND MUNICIPAL POLICE SHOULD BE ON THE SIDE OF THE TAXPAYERS THAT PAY THEIR SALARY BUT THEY WERE WELL BRIBED BY TRUDEAU TO BE THE GOVERNMENT GOPHERS TO ATTACK CANADIAN CITIZENS AT THE FREEDOM CONVOY...I GUESS IT WAS CARNEY THAT GAVE THE ORDERS FOR CFIA TO MURDER THE BEAUTIFUL, HEALTHY AND HARMLESS OSTRICHES. THIS DEBACLE HAS PUT A HATE TARGET ON ANY CANADIANS TRAVELLING OUTSIDE OF CANADA.
These ostrich have not been part of any human consumption since before the Plandemic. The supposed flu was detected with two PCR tests in Dec /24. BC health no longer uses PCR to detect virus in humans, deemed unreliable per B Henry. The scientists at CFOODIA refuse to test the healthy birds. There should be red flags for everyone when the FOOD bureaucrats can order the culling of healthy animals who are not destined for human consumption.
However, up to the cull order, the farm was following CFIA protocol as a biohazard facility.
I spent a large amount of time in my business life having staff deal with cross border harmonized tariffs. Categorizing etc etc. importing into Canada ? A costly nightmare. Exporting to USA ? Much easier. Going back30-40 years some US companies would not ship to Canada. Still true. The paperwork is too onerous. To this day I keep US manufactured goods made to my design in a Ny state warehouse. It’s not economic to import them here , and then turn around and sell back to the USA. Which is by far the largest market.
Anyone who thinks and believes Liberals stroking Canadian egos with the policy of “ diversifying trade to Europe and beyond” to thus become “ less reliant on the USA” is clearly delusional. And frankly stupid.
America is great. Friendly. A superpower.
How has Canada gotten everything so wrong with our trade relationship?
No it’s not Trump. And what is worse, Trump has upset the globalist agenda and our PM is doubling down on failed policies, while the rest of the world is starting to realize maybe they were not a great idea. But you won’t hear that through our media.
So you’re saying Trump and his constantly changing tariffs, economic threats and unstable trade practices are not the problem, but onerous Canadian paperwork is? OK.
Kevin along with onerous paperwork comes costs. Duties ( tariffs) and taxes. GST is applied AFTER duties. My conclusion is that your comment is not based on fact or knowledge of the cost of doing trade business in Canada from US or in fact anywhere else. My auto parts imported from Sweden are subject to duties as well as taxes.
No duties ? Little to No paperwork. Duties ? Quote:”Canada's Harmonized System (HS) for imports has over 12,000 unique classifications at the 10-digit level, which are part of a 21-section, 96-chapter international system that uses more than 5,000 six-digit commodity codes. While the international system has about 5,000 6-digit codes, Canada adds a 10-digit code for its own tariff schedule. “
My comment is not based on fact? Where is it wrong? That there is paperwork involved in cross border trade? You’re missing the main point in that the Trump regime essentially attacked the world in terms of trade and Canada responded accordingly to protect its interests. If you believe that Canada, in trying to diversify some, but not all, of its trade to other countries that actually respect our economic interests is “stupid or delusional” then your opinion is not based on fact but merely conjecture.
It really is tiresome reading your stuff. 78% of all Canadas trade is USA. Get with the program. Clearly the liberals are not doing so and you clearly postulate why they are this way.
MR. BRIAN LILLEY AND MR. DAVID KRAYDEN AND REBEL AND JUNO NEWS AND MS. JASMINE LAINE DESERVE ALL THE SUPPORT WE CAN GIVE. ALONG WITH CHRIS DACEY AND ALL OTHER CANADIAN REPORTERS WHO WEAR THE CLOAKS OF CHRISTIANITY, GOODNESS, AND MERCY.
"No, these ostriches are not going into the food supply, but their existence could harm other bird flocks in the area and spread the disease."
These perfectly healthy (ie recovered from bird flu) birds are no threat to anyone or thing in the Canada, let alone the small plot they live on. CFIA's actions can be equated to killing the remaining well and thriving patrons in the old folks home because a few of the frail got sick and died from pneumonia. CFIA crew are dumb and ignorant luddites. Shame on you Brian for succumbing to the rhetoric and not using your common sense. Next you'll be telling us the shots were safe and effective because you heard Ian Handsome-man-thing tell us such on TV
The CFIA may have a legitimate reason to cull the birds, but we’ll never know what it is because unlike elected officials they aren’t beholdin’ to anyone. Well, seems like elected officials aren’t either these days either, come to think of it.
I will have questions on Sunday about why this “generational, once in a lifetime” budget that we are all supposed to sacrifice for did not even mention how the continued funding of the OAS at the current levels will bankrupt us. I was told Carney was a “smart” person. He reminds me of Fredo.
"RUNNING" a country is very different from RUINING OR BANKRUPTING a country that is what freelander and trudeauII started and Carney, I SUPPOSE was sent in by the WEF to manage the destruction in year eleven. The finances of Canada are now a disaster that I believe was the plan that would move the liberal government ahead to remove CPP funds to "balance the books". But the debt is heading for more than taxpayers can imagine would have been necessary outside of "wartime" or the outright collapse of taxpayer and CPP accumulated funds. Are taxpayers receiving enough "VALUES" IN RETURN for their contributions to taxation and will the TAXATION FUNDS be able to accommodate the GROWING NUMBERS OF non-contributors that taxpayers already pay for?
In regard to the Ostriches: they are not exotic pets, or for food. They are used for research for human benefit like vaccine development. The birds have obviously developed immunity to the avian flu, so would be very valuable for research. This is a heavy handed tunnel vision decision by the Feds.
"Is anyone shocked the NDP is helping the Liberals once more?" --- when the NDP are so deep in the toilet bowl any scrap of tissue is worth grabbing for
It was never a cull they shut down the lights, and just fired into them you could hear them screaming in pain, totally disgusting, Is this our new Government looking after our safety, It was on Utube for everyone to view. Sickening
I have first hand experience with the fallout that happens when importing countries decide that Canada has food safety problems and close their borders to our live animals and meat products. The Canadian cattle industry is still struggling to regain some markets after a cow tested positive for BSE in May 2003. Millions of dollars of book value wiped out because of ONE cow. Now, in that instance CFIA didn't order a national, regional or local cull. For the most part it was managed by testing and observation, but the lessons learned were costly and the source of the problems dealt with.
So, I look at a few ostriches, novel species that are not native to Canada and can't believe the way that the owners of the birds were allowed to bob, weave and litigate their way into a special status that has never been granted to other animal owners with a herd health concern to the CFIA or its forerunners. The ostriches had a documented bird flu outbreak that killed some of the flock. Therefore in the national interest, CFIA is empowered to clean house and prevent the bird flu outbreak from spreading.
This is a battle of wits that CFIA can't afford to lose. If exemptions are made for a few ostriches then everyone and their dog will petition for mercy and tug at the heart strings of well intended but poorly informed people to assist them in defying the national interest and food safety principles.
2 out of 69 dead birds tested positive with a PCR test- known for faultiness. CFIA has acted above the law, culling before the SCC ruling released today. The birds have been healthy for 10 months. They have antibodies for avian flu. Many are over 20 yrs old.. many many antibodies for various viruses. Killing them for no reason will affect our humanity and health. Therefore, in the national interest, it is essential that these animals remain alive, and that the CFIA and the RCMP that have been protecting the CFIA are held accountable.
Or prove that natural immunity is possible. And just possibly, humans living and working in close proximity to animals that survived an outbreak may just develop a natural form of resistance. Imagine what that would do to the constant drumbeat about the next pandemic will be caused by a bird flu mutation.
Poetry, and small or big minds aside, the stakes are high. A black swan event can come out of nowhere and not only devastate the national livestock inventory but could potentially cross over into humans and then what?
Citizens can't have it both ways. If they want to give some animals special privileges and keep them beyond the reach of food safety regulations then they also have to take ownership of a pandemic that arises from it.
The overarching national interest is for CFIA to protect the integrity and safety of our livestock and food production.
Lamentably, the conversation has gone down a rabbit hole of exceptionalism, that the ostriches are special and should be protected from the evil government. As a livestock producer, I am pleased to see the CFIA refusing to cut ANYBODY any slack and allow them to avoid liquidating their animals for specious reasons.
It’s unfortunate that you didn’t pay more attention to what was happening at the Ostrich Farm in Edgewood, BC and the determination of the CFIA to cull/kill 300+ birds. It’s only been going on for 11 months. And more importantly since September when the Supreme Court issued a ‘stay’ so the judges could decide whether or not the Farm’s appeal would be heard. The Supreme Court announced today that they would not be hearing the appeal.
So CFIA now gets to kill the birds without testing to prove that the birds are sick.
Another government agency with no accountability.
Why can't they just test the effing birds?😡
No doubt CFIA refused to test because the entire world has seen how healthy the WELL-CARED FOR OSTRICHES ARE AND NONE OF THEM APPEAR TO BE SICK AT ALL AS THEY RUN AWAY TO TRY TO STAY ALIVE!!! THIS IS THE EPITOME OF OVERREACH AND ANIMAL CRUELTY BY THE GOVERNMENT AND CFIA. TIME TO GET RID OF SUCH A CRUEL AND EXTREMELY IDIOTIC LIBERAL GOVERNMENT. DISGUSTING!! INHUMANE - CRUELTY TO THESE BEAUTIFUL BIRDS SHOULD BE MET WITH A $330 MILLION DOLLAR FINE TO BE PAID TO THE OSTRICH FARM, AND JAIL WITHOUT BAIL FOR THEIR MURDERERS ALONG WITH ONE HE** OF A LONG TIME BEHIND BARS FOR CRUELTY TO ANIMALS. BY THE WAY, WHY DID ALL OF THE USUALLY VOCAL ANIMAL RIGHTS PEOPLE GO MIA TO PROTECT THE HEALTHY, BELOVED AND WELL-CARED FOR OSTRICHES??? THAT IS SUCH A MYSTERY TO ME.
Yup, that’s exactly everyone has been asking for the CFIA to do for months now.
They tested the birds that died last December but refuse to test the birds that are alive.
I suspect that logic is not part of the CFIA mandate.
This government does not know logic and common sense. Probably a bunch of DEI bureaucrats.
Because they are government pigs.
oh no, don't call them "pigs", as pigs they would have to shoot themselves in their own heads to save the planet.
This could be acceptable. Perhaps they’d enroll in the MAID program…
HOPEFULLY THE NEXT ELECTION WILL PUT THE GOVERNMENT ON THE MAID LIST.
Agree, but we shouldn't insult the pigs.
AND WE MOST DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT CORRAL AND MURDER THE OSTRICHES. THIS ALONE IS NOT ONLY INSANE OVERREACH, BUT A DISGUSTING ACT THAT HAS BEEN SEEN GLOBALLY. THIS ACT MAY BE THE DEATH KNELL TO OUR GLOBAL REPUTATION. CAN WE SUE FOR REPUTATIONAL DAMAGE TO ALL CANADIANS?? FIRST THE FREEDOM CONVOY ATTACK AND NOW THE MURDER OF BEAUTIFUL OSTRICHES. WOW! WHAT IS OUR FLAG WORTH NOW??? WE HAVE A BRAIN DEAD LIBERAL GOVERNMENT . WE ARE NOT GETTING OUR TAXPAID MONEY'S WORTH FROM THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT.
When does the insurrection start?
IT STARTS IN OUR OWN HOMES...AND IN THE SCHOOLS IF WE CAN GET RID OF THE UNEDUCATED WOKE TEACHERS...AND IN OUR COMPROMISED COURTS. AND OBVIOUSLY OUR RCMP AND MUNICIPAL POLICE SHOULD BE ON THE SIDE OF THE TAXPAYERS THAT PAY THEIR SALARY BUT THEY WERE WELL BRIBED BY TRUDEAU TO BE THE GOVERNMENT GOPHERS TO ATTACK CANADIAN CITIZENS AT THE FREEDOM CONVOY...I GUESS IT WAS CARNEY THAT GAVE THE ORDERS FOR CFIA TO MURDER THE BEAUTIFUL, HEALTHY AND HARMLESS OSTRICHES. THIS DEBACLE HAS PUT A HATE TARGET ON ANY CANADIANS TRAVELLING OUTSIDE OF CANADA.
Re the ostriches. How do they propose to stop the spread through all the wild birds out there?
Trust the science Bonnie.
Canadian FOOD Inspection Agency.
These ostrich have not been part of any human consumption since before the Plandemic. The supposed flu was detected with two PCR tests in Dec /24. BC health no longer uses PCR to detect virus in humans, deemed unreliable per B Henry. The scientists at CFOODIA refuse to test the healthy birds. There should be red flags for everyone when the FOOD bureaucrats can order the culling of healthy animals who are not destined for human consumption.
However, up to the cull order, the farm was following CFIA protocol as a biohazard facility.
Communism, they masked for it.
I’m surprised CFIA has not attempted to cull wild birds.
A debacle ironically brought you by a government with its head in the sand.
Budget ?
Back in real life Dempsters ancient grains bread is 4 dollars on sale.
Food inflation continues to rise.
Cloned meat is not required to be identified as such.
And here I am , a poor retiree considering paying Mr Lilleys subscription because he has a much tougher cost of living than myself.
Lilley lives in Toronto.
Some cereals and preparations from cereals imported from the US are subject to a 25% tariff. As of September 1.
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/programs/international-trade-finance-policy/canadas-response-us-tariffs/complete-list-us-products-subject-to-counter-tariffs.html
I spent a large amount of time in my business life having staff deal with cross border harmonized tariffs. Categorizing etc etc. importing into Canada ? A costly nightmare. Exporting to USA ? Much easier. Going back30-40 years some US companies would not ship to Canada. Still true. The paperwork is too onerous. To this day I keep US manufactured goods made to my design in a Ny state warehouse. It’s not economic to import them here , and then turn around and sell back to the USA. Which is by far the largest market.
Anyone who thinks and believes Liberals stroking Canadian egos with the policy of “ diversifying trade to Europe and beyond” to thus become “ less reliant on the USA” is clearly delusional. And frankly stupid.
America is great. Friendly. A superpower.
How has Canada gotten everything so wrong with our trade relationship?
It’s not Trump
No it’s not Trump. And what is worse, Trump has upset the globalist agenda and our PM is doubling down on failed policies, while the rest of the world is starting to realize maybe they were not a great idea. But you won’t hear that through our media.
It’s going to worse before it gets better.
So you’re saying Trump and his constantly changing tariffs, economic threats and unstable trade practices are not the problem, but onerous Canadian paperwork is? OK.
Kevin along with onerous paperwork comes costs. Duties ( tariffs) and taxes. GST is applied AFTER duties. My conclusion is that your comment is not based on fact or knowledge of the cost of doing trade business in Canada from US or in fact anywhere else. My auto parts imported from Sweden are subject to duties as well as taxes.
No duties ? Little to No paperwork. Duties ? Quote:”Canada's Harmonized System (HS) for imports has over 12,000 unique classifications at the 10-digit level, which are part of a 21-section, 96-chapter international system that uses more than 5,000 six-digit commodity codes. While the international system has about 5,000 6-digit codes, Canada adds a 10-digit code for its own tariff schedule. “
My comment is not based on fact? Where is it wrong? That there is paperwork involved in cross border trade? You’re missing the main point in that the Trump regime essentially attacked the world in terms of trade and Canada responded accordingly to protect its interests. If you believe that Canada, in trying to diversify some, but not all, of its trade to other countries that actually respect our economic interests is “stupid or delusional” then your opinion is not based on fact but merely conjecture.
It really is tiresome reading your stuff. 78% of all Canadas trade is USA. Get with the program. Clearly the liberals are not doing so and you clearly postulate why they are this way.
Sad to be you, and them.
Of course it's not Trump. It's idiot liberal voters.
MR. BRIAN LILLEY AND MR. DAVID KRAYDEN AND REBEL AND JUNO NEWS AND MS. JASMINE LAINE DESERVE ALL THE SUPPORT WE CAN GIVE. ALONG WITH CHRIS DACEY AND ALL OTHER CANADIAN REPORTERS WHO WEAR THE CLOAKS OF CHRISTIANITY, GOODNESS, AND MERCY.
"No, these ostriches are not going into the food supply, but their existence could harm other bird flocks in the area and spread the disease."
These perfectly healthy (ie recovered from bird flu) birds are no threat to anyone or thing in the Canada, let alone the small plot they live on. CFIA's actions can be equated to killing the remaining well and thriving patrons in the old folks home because a few of the frail got sick and died from pneumonia. CFIA crew are dumb and ignorant luddites. Shame on you Brian for succumbing to the rhetoric and not using your common sense. Next you'll be telling us the shots were safe and effective because you heard Ian Handsome-man-thing tell us such on TV
Reread the article.
Why no rumors of Libs crossing to the conservatives? Got to be some rural lib MPs that the conservatives can pick off.
The CFIA may have a legitimate reason to cull the birds, but we’ll never know what it is because unlike elected officials they aren’t beholdin’ to anyone. Well, seems like elected officials aren’t either these days either, come to think of it.
I will have questions on Sunday about why this “generational, once in a lifetime” budget that we are all supposed to sacrifice for did not even mention how the continued funding of the OAS at the current levels will bankrupt us. I was told Carney was a “smart” person. He reminds me of Fredo.
https://youtu.be/vYabrQrXt4A?si=PggtEZLvL3LRZF9t
Sure Carney is smart. My daughter's dog is very smart but I don't think he could run this country and neither can Carney.
"RUNNING" a country is very different from RUINING OR BANKRUPTING a country that is what freelander and trudeauII started and Carney, I SUPPOSE was sent in by the WEF to manage the destruction in year eleven. The finances of Canada are now a disaster that I believe was the plan that would move the liberal government ahead to remove CPP funds to "balance the books". But the debt is heading for more than taxpayers can imagine would have been necessary outside of "wartime" or the outright collapse of taxpayer and CPP accumulated funds. Are taxpayers receiving enough "VALUES" IN RETURN for their contributions to taxation and will the TAXATION FUNDS be able to accommodate the GROWING NUMBERS OF non-contributors that taxpayers already pay for?
In regard to the Ostriches: they are not exotic pets, or for food. They are used for research for human benefit like vaccine development. The birds have obviously developed immunity to the avian flu, so would be very valuable for research. This is a heavy handed tunnel vision decision by the Feds.
‘I’m with the government and here to help”
🤪😆😂
Then they came for the Ostriches, and I did not speak up, as I was not an ostrich 😬🇨🇦
"Is anyone shocked the NDP is helping the Liberals once more?" --- when the NDP are so deep in the toilet bowl any scrap of tissue is worth grabbing for
“Cervical dislocation”. How very civilized. Why don’t they just test them. Someone has offered to pay.
The province of Ontario has the largest non-soverign debt in the world. The amount of debt we carry is just staggering.
It was never a cull they shut down the lights, and just fired into them you could hear them screaming in pain, totally disgusting, Is this our new Government looking after our safety, It was on Utube for everyone to view. Sickening
Regarding the ostriches, here is a highly qualified expert whose testimony was rejected by the court : https://x.com/jasonlavigneab/status/1971719069327044700?s=46&t=Lzi7vtgYI7xqb6YMCUoRag
I have first hand experience with the fallout that happens when importing countries decide that Canada has food safety problems and close their borders to our live animals and meat products. The Canadian cattle industry is still struggling to regain some markets after a cow tested positive for BSE in May 2003. Millions of dollars of book value wiped out because of ONE cow. Now, in that instance CFIA didn't order a national, regional or local cull. For the most part it was managed by testing and observation, but the lessons learned were costly and the source of the problems dealt with.
So, I look at a few ostriches, novel species that are not native to Canada and can't believe the way that the owners of the birds were allowed to bob, weave and litigate their way into a special status that has never been granted to other animal owners with a herd health concern to the CFIA or its forerunners. The ostriches had a documented bird flu outbreak that killed some of the flock. Therefore in the national interest, CFIA is empowered to clean house and prevent the bird flu outbreak from spreading.
This is a battle of wits that CFIA can't afford to lose. If exemptions are made for a few ostriches then everyone and their dog will petition for mercy and tug at the heart strings of well intended but poorly informed people to assist them in defying the national interest and food safety principles.
2 out of 69 dead birds tested positive with a PCR test- known for faultiness. CFIA has acted above the law, culling before the SCC ruling released today. The birds have been healthy for 10 months. They have antibodies for avian flu. Many are over 20 yrs old.. many many antibodies for various viruses. Killing them for no reason will affect our humanity and health. Therefore, in the national interest, it is essential that these animals remain alive, and that the CFIA and the RCMP that have been protecting the CFIA are held accountable.
Isn’t there some scientific value to testing them? Perhaps that might lead to a cure?
Or prove that natural immunity is possible. And just possibly, humans living and working in close proximity to animals that survived an outbreak may just develop a natural form of resistance. Imagine what that would do to the constant drumbeat about the next pandemic will be caused by a bird flu mutation.
Are you offering to inject wildfowl with a vaccine derived from ostriches to see if there is any scientific validity to the exercise?
Poetry, and small or big minds aside, the stakes are high. A black swan event can come out of nowhere and not only devastate the national livestock inventory but could potentially cross over into humans and then what?
Citizens can't have it both ways. If they want to give some animals special privileges and keep them beyond the reach of food safety regulations then they also have to take ownership of a pandemic that arises from it.
Yes but apparently they aren’t even going to test the birds after they are dead. Not very sciency.
The overarching national interest is for CFIA to protect the integrity and safety of our livestock and food production.
Lamentably, the conversation has gone down a rabbit hole of exceptionalism, that the ostriches are special and should be protected from the evil government. As a livestock producer, I am pleased to see the CFIA refusing to cut ANYBODY any slack and allow them to avoid liquidating their animals for specious reasons.
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines."