This idea assumes we actually want a trade deal. I am not convinced our side favours that outcome.
1) unilaterally, unconditionally, remove all tariffs on the United States.
2) unilaterally & unconditionally dismantle Supply Management over a seven year phase in.
3) unilaterally & unconditionally, remove the protectionism on the airline, telco, and banking industries.
4) unilaterally & unconditionally agree to remove the remaining restrictions on American alcohol imports. Obviously, this requires Provincial consent, but Premier Ford & Prime Minister Carney are snuggle bunnies at the cottage, so this shouldn’t be difficult.
These suggestions cost us nothing.
These suggestions offer the Americans a win they can take to the American people in time for the midterms.
These suggestions force the Americans back on defence. They position us as good faith, free traders. The Americans can trumpet this as a win, and we get access to the largest trading market in the history of mankind.
Don, I like your suggestions because, oh my God!, they result in massive value for Canadians.
Eliminating tariffs means that various goods manufactured in the US instantly become cheaper in Canada.
Dismantling supply management means that products of those protected industries (dairy and poultry) will be available at reduced cost with greater variety to Canadians.
Opening up airline, telco, banking, etc. will result very quickly in lower prices and increased service.
Ah, but getting the provinces on board will be tough.
Now, having made all my points about how it is a wonderful idea, we know that the current LPC government will never do it because they believe above all in US = evil; any, any, any, any Canadian thingy is good.
Imagine the leverage Pierre Poilievre could have gained if he had staked a position in opposition to Supply Management.
Yes, it would have been controversial. Yes, it would have been a tough sell. Yes, he may have had to sacrifice some support in Quebec.
But he would have taken a position consistent with the rest of his platform, and had the opportunity to offer Canadians a contrast to the stifling economic oppression of the Carney Economic Model.
In 100% agreement. But Carney and associates their plan are well underway. Uncertain and insane agreements. Smug attitudes towards the US. Preference towards Beijing. Makes complete sense to me. How about you…Canadians. OMG. What an upside down world we live in. Not asked for. NOT WANTED!
Christine, I suffer from a mental disability (according to many Canadians): I like the average American citizen and absolutely would trust them over ever so many Canadian citizens. Most Canadians see the US and they see the "insult" that DJT has thrown against Canada with his 51st state silliness. Most Canadians cannot see (really stupid Canadians!) that DJT is simply trying to provoke Canada to get a better deal; in other words, get us to pay attention to the nonsense stuff while he does whatever he is going to do to benefit the US. In the meantime, of course, Canada is not looking out for it's own interests (again, really stupid Canadians!).
So, we end up with Canada preferring Beijing over the US (incredibly stupid Canadians!).
So, yes, it is an upside down world and, no, it is not at all what we want.
Great analysis of Canadian views on intelligent Canadians. I too suffer from the same disability. Working through my insanely common sense take on this new Canada. 🤞
Another important stickler, and this is probably on purpose is Canada is absolutely not doing anything to stop the flow of Fentanyl and human trafficking from crossing the border into the US. This Lieberal government is so entrenched in corruption that doing something that should be considered right isn't possible because they are compromised. The CCP is behind most of it. Trump is not the enemy here.
Um, don’t we already have a trade deal in place that covers about 85% of our trade with the US? So what new deal are you talking about? Oh yeah, let’s agree to a new deal where everything that is exported from Canada into the US is tariffed by 10% or 15% or even 20%. I’m sure the trade expert who wrote this article and every previous piece complaining about not getting a deal WNEN ONE IS ALREADY IN PLACE can explain the financial impact to the Canadian economy of new 10% or 15% or 20% tariffs on every Canadian export to the US.
When the original USMCA was negotiated & signed, Canada almost got left out because Trudeau the Younger and Chrystia Freeloader were playing stoopid games.
King Carney got elected promising to be the "adult in the room" and has managed to make things worse. That's a bold strategy, Carney... let's see how it works out for what's left of Canada...
Carney seems hell bound to undermine Canada’s relationship with the USA. His entire platform regarding the US is “orange man” bad so let’s antagonize them at every turn. Unless Brookfield or a liberal friend were to profit of some kind of deal it seems he is not interested
How on earth did we get HERE? After 11 years of ideological policies and catering to Quebec we're in limbo because our PM wants an alliance with Europe over the USA. This is totally the WEF/UN/Trudeau/Carney fiasco that never ends and I for one place the blame squarely on Carney for his elitist and globalist goals and purposeful direction at the expense of Canada. He has shown through his handling of the Bank of England, his participation with the WEF as a board member, and being handpicked by the UN to be their UN special envoy for Net zero emissions to put everyone else over Canada. Shameful it's actually treasonous in my opinion.
I firmly believe in the start it was the Liberal Party of Canada calling the shots. They only see power and opportunity to grift the economy as they try to abstain from any real negotiation. Carney is a smart man and could get this settled… so why doesn’t he. Maybe he’s seeing Power and opportunity, just like his handlers..
Carney is too focused on doing trade with other countries who do little to no trade with Canada. He refuses to solve the trade war with the US. The best way to get free trade is to get rid of supply management and our ridiculous tariffs on US dairy. That would benefit both Americans and Canadians by making our prices cheaper. We should sign an agreement to get rid of all tariffs on either side of the border.
I agree the dairy cartel must go, I, too, believe Carney is fiddling around and biding his time not for the next presidency but because he's part of the WEF/UN/IMF/World Bank reset. He needs to get Canada in more debt first then, once we fall, all the other dominoes fall in to place leaving the USA behind. Then they will fall.
How else to bring in Carney's Inclusive Capitalism initiative than for the country to fail? We are de-industrializing, like Europe (in the name of net zero), and, also like Europe, piling up debt. I don't like the American tariffs but I understand why Trump is employing the strategy - it's to get the country out of debt. Carney has no such goal. He wants to change the entire system.
I think it stems from the lack of a true identity - we are not American is about as close as our identity gets. Years of the Liberal political class and their compliant media being critical of American politics, especially in the Trump era, have compounded the matter. Carney recognizes this cultural sensitivity and is exploiting it.
Honestly very true. Canada has not established our national identity since its founding. I believe Canada was built on the values of loyalty and community. I encourage you all to check out my page to learn more about Canadian national identity and patriotism.
I hate to say it but Canada has lost its way. The elbows up crowd has no common sense. The liberal nonsense has invaded every aspect of our lives. Everyone wants a handout. Everyone looks to the government to save them. It should be the opposite. The government should be there for the worst of times if god forbid terrible things happen. I see people wanting to get ‘disability leave’ off work. They are all trying to game the system. My friend in charge of HR said that one of her employees broke her pinkie toe and put in for 6 weeks leave and was furious when the doctor wouldn’t sign off on it. This is it now. This is the demise of Canada because more people are like that than not. Fewer people want to work and build things and if they do - they do not want to do it here.
I don't believe for a second Carney and team have any intention of working with the USA on a deal. Carney is enjoying jet-setting all over the place, wining, dining, and signing 'potential' deals. Meanwhile back at the ranch (Canada), we the people, are being hogtied. Quite a disaster the elbows-up crowd have brought on. And sadder still, most don't even notice Carney's lack of interest in Canada because they have been conditioned to hate Trump. That is more important than questioning their own government.
Could not agree more FortheLove, and cpyl not have said it better. Carney isn't looking for a deal. He and the missus are having the time of their lives flying all over the world and "getting deals" with other countries. Lol like that's happening. In Carney's dreams. Arrogant twats.
In the addled brain of the Elbows Up sheeple, the most important thing for Canada to do is to stick it to the big bad orange man. Carney’s base is the addled brain sheeple. He’s a hero to his brainless base and since getting re-elected matters more to the liberals than doing what’s right for the country, Canada will continue its free-fall into oblivion until the libs finally get kicked to their rightful place on a wet, cold curb.
Making a deal with the Americans should have been a relatively simple thing but the liberals have been prickly on purpose from the get go and now we find ourselves on the sidelines as the rest of the world once again scratches their heads wondering what the hell happened to Canada.
Sadly, it was obvious almost from the start of this fiasco that there was no intention of doing what’s right for Canada’s economy.
It’s absolutely farcical for our government to be so braggadocios about having canola “possibly” imported again by China from Canada in return for us importing those lovely, electric data collection-mobiles, especially when compared to the multi-trillion dollar trade deal which the US and China which includes agriculture and rare earths, and Boeings.
Canada just outright sells off the ownership of our rare earth minerals and bails out housing developers.
It would be heart-stopping at this point to hear of even one proposal or deal which benefits Canada’s economy.
This plays into a broader realignment happening globally. The countries figuring out how to position themselves within the new US-led economic order are going to come out ahead. Canada, with all its energy and mineral assets, should be a major player in this new order, but we're not acting like it.
The liberals are just going to wait a few more years for Trump to leave office. If Canada starves or collapses so be it. Carney will just board his corporate jet and return to Europe where he lived before becoming PM
Carney seems hell bound to undermine Canada’s relationship with the USA. His entire platform regarding the US is “orange man” bad so let’s antagonize them at every turn. Unless Brookfield or a liberal friend were to profit of some kind of deal it seems he is not interested
"As a country we have tremendous resources and strengths that we are not utilizing in our favour."
The PM has already vowed not to use any of our strengths as leverage. Leverage might accidentally produce a deal so good he would have to sign it, and he would far rather deal with China.
Here is an idea.
This idea assumes we actually want a trade deal. I am not convinced our side favours that outcome.
1) unilaterally, unconditionally, remove all tariffs on the United States.
2) unilaterally & unconditionally dismantle Supply Management over a seven year phase in.
3) unilaterally & unconditionally, remove the protectionism on the airline, telco, and banking industries.
4) unilaterally & unconditionally agree to remove the remaining restrictions on American alcohol imports. Obviously, this requires Provincial consent, but Premier Ford & Prime Minister Carney are snuggle bunnies at the cottage, so this shouldn’t be difficult.
These suggestions cost us nothing.
These suggestions offer the Americans a win they can take to the American people in time for the midterms.
These suggestions force the Americans back on defence. They position us as good faith, free traders. The Americans can trumpet this as a win, and we get access to the largest trading market in the history of mankind.
Don, I like your suggestions because, oh my God!, they result in massive value for Canadians.
Eliminating tariffs means that various goods manufactured in the US instantly become cheaper in Canada.
Dismantling supply management means that products of those protected industries (dairy and poultry) will be available at reduced cost with greater variety to Canadians.
Opening up airline, telco, banking, etc. will result very quickly in lower prices and increased service.
Ah, but getting the provinces on board will be tough.
Now, having made all my points about how it is a wonderful idea, we know that the current LPC government will never do it because they believe above all in US = evil; any, any, any, any Canadian thingy is good.
Sadly, Ken, I tend to agree.
Imagine the leverage Pierre Poilievre could have gained if he had staked a position in opposition to Supply Management.
Yes, it would have been controversial. Yes, it would have been a tough sell. Yes, he may have had to sacrifice some support in Quebec.
But he would have taken a position consistent with the rest of his platform, and had the opportunity to offer Canadians a contrast to the stifling economic oppression of the Carney Economic Model.
In 100% agreement. But Carney and associates their plan are well underway. Uncertain and insane agreements. Smug attitudes towards the US. Preference towards Beijing. Makes complete sense to me. How about you…Canadians. OMG. What an upside down world we live in. Not asked for. NOT WANTED!
Christine, I suffer from a mental disability (according to many Canadians): I like the average American citizen and absolutely would trust them over ever so many Canadian citizens. Most Canadians see the US and they see the "insult" that DJT has thrown against Canada with his 51st state silliness. Most Canadians cannot see (really stupid Canadians!) that DJT is simply trying to provoke Canada to get a better deal; in other words, get us to pay attention to the nonsense stuff while he does whatever he is going to do to benefit the US. In the meantime, of course, Canada is not looking out for it's own interests (again, really stupid Canadians!).
So, we end up with Canada preferring Beijing over the US (incredibly stupid Canadians!).
So, yes, it is an upside down world and, no, it is not at all what we want.
Great analysis of Canadian views on intelligent Canadians. I too suffer from the same disability. Working through my insanely common sense take on this new Canada. 🤞
Is it that the liberals believe US=evil or is it they can continue using the rhetoric to keep the elbowz up crew on board to continue being elected?
My view, for what it is worth, is that the Liberals will continue to play the same game for as long as it works on the same Canadians.
Since Canadians are so easy to deceive, they will fall for the same ruse, and buy into the same myth, over and over again.
If Canadian voters were fish, they would get caught five times per day.
Yes and yes.
I don’t think that they need voter approval anymore. The deeply embedded foreign interference is alive and thriving.
Another important stickler, and this is probably on purpose is Canada is absolutely not doing anything to stop the flow of Fentanyl and human trafficking from crossing the border into the US. This Lieberal government is so entrenched in corruption that doing something that should be considered right isn't possible because they are compromised. The CCP is behind most of it. Trump is not the enemy here.
Agreed 100%
Um, don’t we already have a trade deal in place that covers about 85% of our trade with the US? So what new deal are you talking about? Oh yeah, let’s agree to a new deal where everything that is exported from Canada into the US is tariffed by 10% or 15% or even 20%. I’m sure the trade expert who wrote this article and every previous piece complaining about not getting a deal WNEN ONE IS ALREADY IN PLACE can explain the financial impact to the Canadian economy of new 10% or 15% or 20% tariffs on every Canadian export to the US.
When the original USMCA was negotiated & signed, Canada almost got left out because Trudeau the Younger and Chrystia Freeloader were playing stoopid games.
King Carney got elected promising to be the "adult in the room" and has managed to make things worse. That's a bold strategy, Carney... let's see how it works out for what's left of Canada...
🎯
Carney seems hell bound to undermine Canada’s relationship with the USA. His entire platform regarding the US is “orange man” bad so let’s antagonize them at every turn. Unless Brookfield or a liberal friend were to profit of some kind of deal it seems he is not interested
"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
Ronald Reagan
Smart man. So very few of them left.
How on earth did we get HERE? After 11 years of ideological policies and catering to Quebec we're in limbo because our PM wants an alliance with Europe over the USA. This is totally the WEF/UN/Trudeau/Carney fiasco that never ends and I for one place the blame squarely on Carney for his elitist and globalist goals and purposeful direction at the expense of Canada. He has shown through his handling of the Bank of England, his participation with the WEF as a board member, and being handpicked by the UN to be their UN special envoy for Net zero emissions to put everyone else over Canada. Shameful it's actually treasonous in my opinion.
I firmly believe in the start it was the Liberal Party of Canada calling the shots. They only see power and opportunity to grift the economy as they try to abstain from any real negotiation. Carney is a smart man and could get this settled… so why doesn’t he. Maybe he’s seeing Power and opportunity, just like his handlers..
Carney is too focused on doing trade with other countries who do little to no trade with Canada. He refuses to solve the trade war with the US. The best way to get free trade is to get rid of supply management and our ridiculous tariffs on US dairy. That would benefit both Americans and Canadians by making our prices cheaper. We should sign an agreement to get rid of all tariffs on either side of the border.
I agree the dairy cartel must go, I, too, believe Carney is fiddling around and biding his time not for the next presidency but because he's part of the WEF/UN/IMF/World Bank reset. He needs to get Canada in more debt first then, once we fall, all the other dominoes fall in to place leaving the USA behind. Then they will fall.
How else to bring in Carney's Inclusive Capitalism initiative than for the country to fail? We are de-industrializing, like Europe (in the name of net zero), and, also like Europe, piling up debt. I don't like the American tariffs but I understand why Trump is employing the strategy - it's to get the country out of debt. Carney has no such goal. He wants to change the entire system.
And why are Canadians still supporting the liberals. Seriously! Are they that blind, stupid or both?
Yeah both
I think it stems from the lack of a true identity - we are not American is about as close as our identity gets. Years of the Liberal political class and their compliant media being critical of American politics, especially in the Trump era, have compounded the matter. Carney recognizes this cultural sensitivity and is exploiting it.
Honestly very true. Canada has not established our national identity since its founding. I believe Canada was built on the values of loyalty and community. I encourage you all to check out my page to learn more about Canadian national identity and patriotism.
It’s part of the globalist new world order agenda.
DISGUSTING! But you are probably right.
I hate to say it but Canada has lost its way. The elbows up crowd has no common sense. The liberal nonsense has invaded every aspect of our lives. Everyone wants a handout. Everyone looks to the government to save them. It should be the opposite. The government should be there for the worst of times if god forbid terrible things happen. I see people wanting to get ‘disability leave’ off work. They are all trying to game the system. My friend in charge of HR said that one of her employees broke her pinkie toe and put in for 6 weeks leave and was furious when the doctor wouldn’t sign off on it. This is it now. This is the demise of Canada because more people are like that than not. Fewer people want to work and build things and if they do - they do not want to do it here.
I don't believe for a second Carney and team have any intention of working with the USA on a deal. Carney is enjoying jet-setting all over the place, wining, dining, and signing 'potential' deals. Meanwhile back at the ranch (Canada), we the people, are being hogtied. Quite a disaster the elbows-up crowd have brought on. And sadder still, most don't even notice Carney's lack of interest in Canada because they have been conditioned to hate Trump. That is more important than questioning their own government.
Could not agree more FortheLove, and cpyl not have said it better. Carney isn't looking for a deal. He and the missus are having the time of their lives flying all over the world and "getting deals" with other countries. Lol like that's happening. In Carney's dreams. Arrogant twats.
In the addled brain of the Elbows Up sheeple, the most important thing for Canada to do is to stick it to the big bad orange man. Carney’s base is the addled brain sheeple. He’s a hero to his brainless base and since getting re-elected matters more to the liberals than doing what’s right for the country, Canada will continue its free-fall into oblivion until the libs finally get kicked to their rightful place on a wet, cold curb.
Making a deal with the Americans should have been a relatively simple thing but the liberals have been prickly on purpose from the get go and now we find ourselves on the sidelines as the rest of the world once again scratches their heads wondering what the hell happened to Canada.
Sadly, it was obvious almost from the start of this fiasco that there was no intention of doing what’s right for Canada’s economy.
It’s absolutely farcical for our government to be so braggadocios about having canola “possibly” imported again by China from Canada in return for us importing those lovely, electric data collection-mobiles, especially when compared to the multi-trillion dollar trade deal which the US and China which includes agriculture and rare earths, and Boeings.
Canada just outright sells off the ownership of our rare earth minerals and bails out housing developers.
It would be heart-stopping at this point to hear of even one proposal or deal which benefits Canada’s economy.
If Carney cared about Canada this deal would have been done already.
His new world order agenda has priority.
If Canada collapses he won’t care, he is not a patriot.
This man needs to go!
We are in big trouble.
This plays into a broader realignment happening globally. The countries figuring out how to position themselves within the new US-led economic order are going to come out ahead. Canada, with all its energy and mineral assets, should be a major player in this new order, but we're not acting like it.
The liberals are just going to wait a few more years for Trump to leave office. If Canada starves or collapses so be it. Carney will just board his corporate jet and return to Europe where he lived before becoming PM
Carney seems hell bound to undermine Canada’s relationship with the USA. His entire platform regarding the US is “orange man” bad so let’s antagonize them at every turn. Unless Brookfield or a liberal friend were to profit of some kind of deal it seems he is not interested
"As a country we have tremendous resources and strengths that we are not utilizing in our favour."
The PM has already vowed not to use any of our strengths as leverage. Leverage might accidentally produce a deal so good he would have to sign it, and he would far rather deal with China.