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julia's avatar

Brian, bottom line: Do you think Carney wants a deal for Canada? What has Carney done since he took office that is going to turn Canada around?

I don't think he wants a deal.

Brian Lilley's avatar

For the longest time, I didn't think he did want a deal. My view was he wanted to wait Trump out until after the midterms. The 338 tariff threat in July forced him back to the table and he had to try to get a deal, but he failed.

julia's avatar

Either way, Canadians are losing big time...it's very worrisome. I am not sure the average Canadian is gonna make it. Worse....the best and brightest are gonna leave. So are the best industries.

Kevin 🇨🇦's avatar

There is a lot of criticism that PM Carney did not get a deal but virtually nothing from the media describing what this deal is supposed to look like. How about you describing what you think this deal should look like, the benefits to Canada and the likelihood of the US accepting it. That would be a great topic for a column.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Exactly. What constitutes the deal. What was rejected and why. Why are taxpayers not privy to details. This is our livelihood and our futures. Individually, economically and our futures.

Karen Benz's avatar

I keep saying the same Julia. I really think if he wanted one we would have one. After all he said he was the guy to deal with Trump.

Tracy Wilmadean's avatar

Tired of the childish behaviour of the politicians and the elbows up crowd. Politicians seem more interested in their popularity than helping Canadians. Why not? Great pensions. They will never be personally affected. The elbows up crowd similarly are so worked up with TDS they have lost the plot. Willing to throw others livelihoods under the bus so they can shake their fists with outrage and keep up that annoying Canadian superiority complex. As usual the real tax paying Canadians get the short end of the stick.

julia's avatar

Tracy, you nailed it on every point.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Keep in mind the top echelon of this governing body, are not politicians. They were appointed by Carney to the “buddy party”. Private sector.

Certainly not a very democratic process.

Catharina Summers's avatar

I would argue he wants a deal. Any deal. He will give away the farm, for sure. Remember just before deciding to run to be Canada's Prime Minister, Carney was packing his bags to move to NYC. He likes the U.S. and would be comfortable with the 51st state designation.

Katmagu's avatar

Oh he's giving away the farm for sure but he's giving it to China. Carney is preparing the groundwork to make Canada the next Ukraine. Just like the neocons used Ukraine to go after Russian resources....Canada is on the menu for China in their hybrid war with the US

Harry's avatar

I served in the RCN for 22 yrs from '67-'89, never thought I'd be shaking my head in despair after doing what our military did for so long to beat back communism. US demrats are also heading in that direction with their DSA faction!! Insanity!

Christine Barnett's avatar

His “plan” has nothing to do with his preferred place of residence…or his many citizenships. Carney’s plan/alliances are using Canada for its resources, capital capability and example for his “One World Order”.

He has no intention of staying in Canada. He hasn’t priority to his placement nor will he when he decides he has reached his goal.

Christine Barnett's avatar

He can live where he wants to, but the agreements and desks are with China under the mandates of the UN/WEF 2030 policies.

Read some in-depth comments and insights of The Jamestown Institute.

Very interesting and telling.

Harry's avatar

I don't believe canuckistanis actually think our cynically managed, deliberate decline makes our country 'shitty'. Our traditional majority, the hard working, tax raped middle class is rapidly disintegrating and disappearing, making - those lives 'shitty'. We, as a society, over the past 11.5 years have been beaten down, Marxist indoctrinated in public schools and brainwashed. Turd the 2nd and now carnage have filled the gap with rampant, not so subtle socialism, authoritarianism. Globalism, communism, and the siphoning off of the wealthiest class will be next. I pray I'm blowing smoke.

julia's avatar

Sadly, i agree with you. Canada is a beautiful land!! It's gorgeous, breath-taking. Its cities were vibrant, safe, clean. And it used to be peopled by respectful, gracious, hard-working and just people. It used to be prosperous. No one ever thought there could be a worse PM than trudy.

Christine Barnett's avatar

We’ll need more than prayer.

Tom Kendall's avatar

You make a lot of assumptions about the reason for the breakdown in negotiations. None of these assumptions are factual. Acknowledging that Trump may be right in certain circumstances is not supporting him and unpatriotic to Canadians. Carney has not produced for Canada. Trump has produced for the US, whether we like it or not.

Brian Lilley's avatar

I've pointed out that Carney hasn't produced. Meanwhile, despite jobs not being up, production of steel and autos are up stateside.

As for my assumptions, they aren't based on pure speculation, they are based on more conversations than I can count with people who have a clue.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Overall though, we still need our overall trade base with the US. Complemented by diversifying what we can. Scale wise…no comparison. IMO (based on credible data).

Christine Barnett's avatar

Correct. The bluster may be prevalent but the numbers does the truth. So does Canada’s numbers.

Ron Kaden's avatar

Brian this is a good analysis in what is a sea full of confusion and political lies! Carney has not been forthcoming with the full truth and of course the Trump team is full of political liars and spinners.

You are right that we need a trade deal. The lost decade of the liberals and failed pipelines and mining and military neglect has left us terribly exposed. Similarly our reckless immigrants has left us weak on security issues and national unity. Our provincial leaders exist outside the world of economic reality playing small ball politics.

Karman's avatar

Please exclude Danielle Smith and Scott Moe from your list of provincial leaders that exist outside of economic reality.

Brian Johnson's avatar

The elbows up crowd just love it. Carney and Ford know this so are more than happy to continue this to get elected. Imagine if Trump said we were "at war"? I despise Trump but let's be real if he said that the elbows up crowd would be up in arms. For me I will continue to shop at places like No-Frills and buy want I want to save money even if it's dare I say American. The elites preach to us to boycott American goods and travel i. Canada yet they do the opposite. We are doomed under Liberal rule which after the recent bi-elections makes me realize we may have another 10yrs of this

jimmmy's avatar

Stop taxing energy with carbon tax Carney's religiosity of global warming. It's a grift punishing Canadians daily paying for a mythical 1.5deg temp drop. Carney and Brookfield know the grift and how to steal from us.

Eric Black's avatar

Carney and Trump are one and the same Both egotist both power hungry both selfish and inconsiderate They are making Big Money off us [tax payers] Both are corrupt and liars They are doing things for their own measure Carney for Net zero scam and the New World Order {WEF] and Trump just doing things because he is a spoiled child who has bully complex and wants all the attention Hey look at me Im great ha ha ha Both are evil men

Karman's avatar

They are almost 2 sides of the same coin.

Scott Newell's avatar

Truth is. There has been nothing serious about Canada in 12 years!!

Denyse I O'Leary's avatar

Carney (3 citizenships, right?) has no reason to care much if there isn't a US trade deal.

His supporters, now a majority, are happy for us to slowly decline in fortunes and well-being as long as they can hate and blame the Americans and especially DJT. So many of them get their income in whole or in part from the government, not from the state of the economy. And their idea of civil liberties is their right not to hear what upsets them. They are insulated now and in the near future from any reckoning with reality. And they vote.

That is why I doubt that the Conservatives will ever govern again and do not dissuade talented young people from seeking a future elsewhere. The positions they would have filled will be filled by mediocrities who are not sought elsewhere - for whom all this works.

There is nothing unusual about this sort of thing, historically and worldwide. Many countries could do better by giving up cherished illusions. But those illusions are much too important to them.

In our case, the illusion is that we are or ever could be in some kind of a war or competition with the colossus immediately to the south of us.

My bigger worry is that our leaders are irresponsibly cultivating China. And the colossus, which will not tolerate that, is noticing. Our leaders are also irresponsibly cultivating the useless EU, which is not an immediate problem but will probably become one, if Ceuta is any guide.

So the question is not whether Carney is doing the right thing for Canada as whether it even matters now whether he is or not.

Clair de Luna's avatar

With 3 citizenships, how do we know which one he represents?

Denyse I O'Leary's avatar

Maybe he represents none of them. Maybe he represents a global elite for whom the individual countries that some of them govern from time to time are sources of wealth and prestige.

Christine Barnett's avatar

Whichever suits his mercurial nature.

Donald Ashman's avatar

Elbows Up; Brains Turned Off.

Katmagu's avatar

Brian Lilley aren't you Canadian? Humour/meming is the real Cdn sport not hockey imho. I agree with Marc Nixon....its not that you're too "rational" its that you make too much $ to relate to the average Cdn so you are missing the point. Un-brainwashed Canadians need to vent about Carney and the memes offer stress release. Come on down from your ivory tower and roll around on the No Frills floor with the rest of us while we cry/laugh about whats happening to our country at the hands of our fellow countrymen 😭😭😭

Brian Lilley's avatar

What on earth does income have to do with this? I have no Ivory Tower I assure you. This is purely simping for Trump. Call out Carney's policies, don't post videos showing violence against an elected Canadian leader by a foreign leader while cheering it on.

You think this helps replace Carney as PM? It would keep him in with most Canadians.

Katmagu's avatar

Calling out Carney's policies ... yes.... I do it all day long, ever since the Goldman Saks central banker was appointed PM, on my social media, which gets little attention.

Many Canadian social media content creators have also been doing so since Carney came into office without much penetration into MSM until "The Meme War" erupted!

The memes are pure Canadian self depreciating humour which releases stress.

Frankly I feel much better now...instead of listening to the "news" and feeling like my brain is going to blow a gasket everytime I hear the latest insult to Cdn culture, finances, and history from our OWN government....instead now I am laughing, making up memes in my head, feeling connected to all the other "un-brainwashed" Canadians laughing their asses off as well, cause what else can we do about it?...nothing in this country based on by election results...its some form of "only in Canada" group therapy I guess.

As to income.....lets see....I am a senior living in seniors affordable public housing....so just going to the grocery store is stressful for me because I cant afford to eat the healthy food my body requires to fuel itself.

I look at the price of tomatoes and want to cry.😭😭😭 I raised 2 kids but cannot imagine trying to feed and raise a family in Canada today.

Obviously you are not experiencing the same reality if your not having a meltdown every time you go for groceries and feeling enraged every time Carney takes a bite of his Normandy buttered bread on his latest taxpayer funded food orgy in the skies.

This month we have more carbon taxing coming into effect to further drive up the cost of everything while Carney flies around the globe preaching his dogma meanwhile he can't be bothered to explain his failure to negoiate a decent trade deal with Trump to Canadians. 🤯

I just dont know how much more the average Cdn peasant can take before we go ballistic and meme our own brains out on social media. 🤣

Thats the difference between Americans and Canadians....they get crazy with guns and Cdn make mean memes under our breath.

I'll take the Meme War any day ✌️

Christine Barnett's avatar

Each to their own. You have your reasons and outlets. And yes, a simple trip to the grocery store can definitely contribute to rising blood pressures and cynicism.

Outlets like Substack give us an avenue to comment and share will like minded people. And hopefully, open minded ones too. Sadly, there are many that are truly lost in an illusion.

Karen Benz's avatar

I don't think it has anything to do with Brian making "too much money". It is about being a rational thinking Canadian and we font have too many of those.

Katmagu's avatar

Well then you are not living in the same level of poverty that I, and many other Canadians, experience. Are you going to food banks? Can you afford wifi AND groceries? Its is about $$$$. Same as the politicicans. They dont experience the same reality as the majority of Cdns because they are insulated from much of it because they have $$ to buy groceries etc. I challenge you and Brian Lilley to walk a day in my shoes and then tell me income has nothing to do with it. You are inhabiting an echo chamber of those with "enough" telling the rest of us that its not about income imho

Christine Barnett's avatar

I don’t think that is true. Our demographic has changed vastly in the past decade. Income does make a difference. Those that have more than enough tend to see only one side of the story. On this case Carney’s. Unfortunately, even that group will feel the pain if he succeeds.

Tell your story. Contact anyone, someone in the MSM, current social media outlets and more importantly, YOUR DISTRICT MP and MPP

And keep trying.

The latter is getting paid to represent you. And probably many more in your situation in the very near future.

Are you happy that billions will be handed out to those affected by tariffs and counter tariffs? Are you going to be included .

Those will the ability will leave Canada. Those that stay…god bless you. We’ll all need some sort of blessing.

We’re on your side. But you need to be proactive to be heard. 💙

Christine Barnett's avatar

Woah!! Where is this coming from. Comments are accepted, wherever the originate from. But this comment is disingenuous and unwarranted. Brian has access to many outlets and individuals directly connected to current Canadian issues. Researched facts and data by experts in their respective fields are presented.

Once again, Brian presents both, in addition to an educated opinion.

You…however present neither. IMO

Jim M's avatar

I think Carney played Trump. Carney didn't want a deal because of the recent polling, the by-elections and getting ammunition to sink the republicans in the mid-terms. Predictably, Trump lashes out, Carney is riding high again and jetting off to further align us with the EU.

Carney will go back to the bargaining table after the mid-terms, IMO. But we will not get a great deal. Add to this soup, the investment summit in Sept headed up by China lover, Dominic Barton. Things don't look good for Canadian taxpayers.

Betty Abbott's avatar

Carney played Canadians. I dislike Donald Trump but he knows full well who and what Mark Carney is, and he can't help himself but I do not think he is a "fool". They are really very similar, Carney is just more polished.

As for who tanked the trade deal as much as I think the Trump team were playing "hard ball" I have no doubt Team Canada tanked it on purpose because without the Trump boogymman they may loose power. I also believe they never had the large trucks on the table because they were not listening to the Auto sector. But I would bet the real sticking point was the dairy cartel and the risk of loosing Quebec.

Robby B's avatar

We know they are not listening to the auto sector when they offer loans to help with tariffs that are KILLLING the manufacturing trades and then turn around and bail out contractors in BC that failed to read the room.

Catharina Summers's avatar

A bit over 72% of Canada's exports in 2025 were to the U.S. less than 8% to the EU. Even if Carney manages to double that, it is still insignificant.

Merla Parker's avatar

Sorry Brian. Carney has proven he is not a trustworthy guy. I believe the Americans over him. I am not a Trump fan girl but I dont have TDS either.

Brian Lilley's avatar

In my experience, you listen to what both sides say with their carefully chosen words and look behind the curtain a bit and you see the real story. Which neither side is telling.

Christine Barnett's avatar

There’s always more to the story than headlines tell. Especially biased ones on both, or all sides of the “arena”. Perception is not reality.

Catharina Summers's avatar

The reality is the United States is throwing its military might around the globe, so if some Canadians fear we are next, it is forgivable. Do I personally believe the U.S. will invade? No, but they are definitely using their economic force as threatened by Trump on January 7, 2025. Prior to the recently announced counter tariffs, Mark Carney had acquiesced to every Trump demand. Most recently agreeing to give the U.S. 50% of the net profits from the Gordie Howe bridge, even though Canadian taxpayers invested $6.4 BILLION and the U.S invested $0.

Why did you and the media give Carney a pass on his weak approach for the first 18 months?

Carney and his advisers know how to manipulate the Canadian people. They knew using an "elbows up" approach in the 2025 federal election would be a winner. Turns out it was all empty rhetoric. Once elected, it was bending a knee, after bending a knee. All the while, crickets from the Canadian news outlets. It is quite likely that Carney's pulling out of the trade negotiations and then announcing counter tariffs was merely another political ploy to exhibit some backbone as the date for the byelections approached. Give Carney a couple of weeks, and Canada will be back at the negotiating table, no doubt giving away the farm.

The question which should be asked is, where would Canada be today if we had not used Carney's flatter and give-in approach?

SP Hart's avatar

How about doing something positive for ourselves for a change? There is one major thing we could do right now. It is called the North West Passage (NWP). Although it partially freezes in the winter, it is 4000 km shorter to ship from China etc to the West than the Panama Canal. How much is that in savings? The Panama Canal collected $58 B in fees in 2025. People the NWP this is Northern Canada, but by international law we do not own it because it is basically uninhabited. However, if the US were to buy Greenland, the NWP would become an AMERICAN internal waterway between Greenland and Alaska. To assert arctic sovereignty and make the NWP Canadian we must develop it, tundra, permafrost and all: Landing strips and airports, docks and harbours, submarines, Coast Guard, ice breakers (3+3 in Halifax in 10 years), roads, tracked vehicles, communications, pre-fab housing, electrification, water and sewage. mining and pre-fab mills (see Little Cornwallis Island), etc. Reduced unemployment, especially youth. If we spent more time building up what we have, instead of complaining what we don't have, we would be much further ahead.

Christine Barnett's avatar

I believe that they are investing in the northern areas. New infrastructure and “ice breakers” had been announced last month. I’m not praising this governing power, especially where Quebec and the Laurentian elite are concerned. Nor am I holding my breath.

You are correct for all the reasons you stated. We have yet to see concrete evidence…yet.

Maybe the “generosity “ will filter down to the rest of Canada?

Christine Barnett's avatar

Where are we now. Does anyone except his inner circle know? That should worry every Canadian. What actions will follow his flowery rhetoric?

Victorine Warner's avatar

I'll endorse the wonderful job that PresTrump is doing for his people every day of the week!! Carny is doing nothing, has done nothing!! And you cheering on his horrible performance is not making me feel better! I hope these memes crush carny. Carnys only interest is self interest. He's absolutely destroying Canada!! If you can't see that then you have the same blinders on that all the other smug wealthy elite do.

Scott Rae's avatar

Canada will never be 51. Trump is having one on the very gullible elbows up group and they fell for it. How are you

UncleMac's avatar

I've seen the Canadian economy being described as a "K economy" where different groups of people or industries experience sharp, opposite financial paths; one going up and one going down resembling the letter "K". In other words, the rich & those connected to the Liberals are getting richer, the poor & those NOT connected to the Liberals are getting poorer.

If the Elbowzo Brigade are on the upper path and careless of who gets destroyed, it would explain their ongoing support of the Liberals.

Ford might be getting a political bump from playing the tough guy along with Mark Blarney but Ontario is going to be destroyed if Ford doesn't smarten up, unless I'm missing something?