I am very tired of the constant criticism of Pierre Poilievre. I am not sure why we have a perpetual lack of guidance and leadership from the Federal Conservative Party's National Council. Currently there 20 members on the executive...that seem to be teflon coated when it comes to all the misdirection and lack of unity between the the provincial and federal conservative parties. Time to clean house find some back bone and party whips within the executive?
Tenecyke, Deloran, Ford are pretend conservatives.
If any of them think for one second they’ll get rid of Pierre and install Ford that won’t happen, they’ll lose their base and most of their memberships.
Tenecyke has made it clear he’s out to get rid of Pierre, tge executives needs to put a stop to it.
Sometimes you just have to wonder…just how deeply embedded is the obvious foreign interference? If you watch Question Period (CTV)(I know MSM)…Teneyke had been off for a while (campaign mgr for BC Conservative leadership). When he returned his demeanour and comments were surprising. As was his agreement with Scot (Liberal supporter on CTV) on the weekly panel. There’s something definitely NOT kosher about the change in attitude.
Pollievre is either very badly managed and therefore sabotaged…or the foreign interference is working overtime. Both can be true or just well coordinated. The CCP are extremely good at manipulation.
Agreed. His true colors are definitely showing. Why and how did the conservatives end in such an upheaval. It seems more than likely that coercion and self preservation is the answer.
Pierre has already said he's not going anywhere myself included need to keep on believing that one day eventually when people have had enough of living in shit ran liberal Land they will be sorta forced to say MAYBE THIS ISN'T WORKING OUT
And it would seem Fred Delorey has a stick that he likes to poke into Pierre Poilievre every chance he gets as well. Delorey is adding nothing positive to the CPC at this time regardless of his past credits.
Is not most every politician these days self serving? YES ! Not many are “for Canada”. It’s a well paying job, with no accountability to anyone. They can’t be impeached or almost never fired. They can and do say whatever they like to please whoever but never do you hear them say how they are good for Canada. It’s so obvious, and so frustrating. PP is the only one I have ever heard speak of improving things for Canada and does it in a selfless way. He is definitely for the people and definitely not a tyrant like the last two Liberal leaders. The things a Liberal MP spews are so far off a value for Canada it’s frigging nauseating. How they get voted for is completely mind boggling. I’m all for Canada but not down the liberal road. Liberal lies and tyranny has ruined this country, very obvious.
What they need to do during the summer is go on a retreat air their shit out there figure shit out come back and be on the same page they obviously are on the same page but with those floor crossers something is going on internally and they need to figure that shit out first and foremost
I did not vote in the BC Conservative race as I did not like any candidate. I also have great dislike for Kory Teneycke and Nick Kouvalis. Both of these individuals benefit from the status quo of managed decline.
The fighting seemed to pop up again the moment the BC Conservative race was decided. Lets be honest, in a race that close the presence of Kory and Nick on Elliots team could have cost her the race. The grassroots of conservatism, here in the west, seem to not like Teneycke. KFL used it to her advantage. Nick did himself, and Elliot, no favours as well. I am talking about his deranged X rants hurled towards members of BC Conservatives.
As for Jamil, he should have keep that thought to himself. Kory should have not been such a prick on CTV, fresh of his loss in BC.
As a BC Conservative member who did vote for the leadership winning candidate I can confirm that Eliot lost much potential support as her eastern PC campaign team kept her out of the first debate. Huge miscalculation. Also lack of actual leadership experience in government, Liberal backroom history, and a wish washy anti social conservatism attitude made her harder Conservative stances suspect, and worse as she tried to deny it. Just the idea of a Liberal insider supported by FORD PCs doesn’t impress a majority of members in BC. The BC Conservative Party like the unaffiliated national CPC will be the winds of change in government. Pandering to the pink PC pretenders will not further the conservative cause. Tenycke is not the man to lead any real conservative campaign. He is arrogant and divisive in his statements. Remind you of anything?
I welcome Eliot to get elected and take up a portfolio and prove herself. Maybe her time will come.
Footnote: the red Tory PC party was kicked to the curb by the Canadian Alliance long ago. Those eastern pols who are trying to recreate the national PC party are going to lose. Their time is long gone. Good riddance.
I agree, Brian, that your article was a well-written piece of work.
Conservatives, Progressive Conservatives, and principled conservatives seem to agree on a great deal more than about which all they are supposed to disagree.
This is a personal disagreement, far more so than it as a professional disagreement.
My respectful challenge to you is this: why bother being an ostensibly Conservative Party, or leader, if you have no intention of pursuing conservative policies?
Growing government debt. Massive subsidies to industry. Failing socialized medicine. Failing public schools that serve the need of the bureaucracy, the administrative state, and the teachers, as opposed to the parents and students.
No demonstrative action on the concurrent homelessness/drug addiction file. Taxes that force families to choose between rent and groceries. A university system loaded with tumescent bloat and shocking bureaucratic inertia.
Shall I go on?
I mean, the Liberal and NDP alliance could have delivered these results.
That fighting in public is exactly why we can't get rid of the elites and get the "people" back in power. I have noticed that with the Freedom movement and the Alberta separation movement as well. Agree to disagree, compromise, move forward. Premier Daneille Smith is the perfect example of taking the high road. She sees the positive and uses that angle rather than negativity and bashing. Many leaders could/should learn from her example.
I would like to believe that. But unfortunately, Carney and the CCP have their own agenda. They will stretch time out with promises and agreements and no immediate action. Then the proverbial axe will fall. This will happen if Canadians don’t act on their values, their belief in their Country, and their unique sovereignty. We can all see what’s happening. We need to act , not react.
Not really sure electing Poilievre is bringing back the “people” - he has been feeding at the government trough since his early twenties. Meanwhile he lives in a government provided 8-bedroom mansion - Stornoway - plus has a chef, housekeeper, chauffeur and a $78,000 annual budget for operating costs provided for him on top of his $300000 salary and ridiculous pension. An Ottawa elite despite the rhetoric.
Time for some new blood as leader, preferably someone who can bring the perspective of a successful private sector career outside the Ottawa bubble.
I did not actually say we should elect Pierre Poilievre, although if I had a choice between him and what we have, (place picture of woman shrugging shoulders here).
Unfortunately I think you are right, the toxic political environment doesn’t make it appealing for accomplished individuals to enter, so we are stuck with too many Poli Sci grads who spend their whole career in politics.
Yet when an “ordinary individual” enters the political arena, the masses want him out (Mike Harris). He didn’t agree with many social programs, especially welfare. Edie silly the generational aspect. So who would be the best candidate. So can’t please all of the people all of the time. But you certainly can alienate the majority of the people. Especially when the majority of a nation do not benefit by the reigning government’s policies and debt load. 😉
Good points. It’s about time for a new CPC leader who is actually competent and doesn’t engage in grievance politics. The new leader should try to build something rather than just tear things down.
Pay attention. He is. The Conservatives are not in power, therefore can only present arguments and solutions. Apparently Carney isn’t willing to listen.
And elections are determined through foreign interference elements.
Pierre is not proposing any solutions. Build Canada. Make Canada safer. Build the military. But where are the details? Besides, these things are already being done if you actually look for it. But haven’t really heard anything from Pierre since he declared “Canada is in recession!” and the strong jobs report refuted that statement. But that is only one data point, you need to assess more factors in order to come to an informed conclusion. The jury is still out on where we are actually headed but several indicators are positive.
Ford is the most Liberal Conservative I’ve ever seen and Tenenycke has shown he’s actively gunning for Pierre. I find Tenenycke to be thoroughly distasteful. I too am sick of people taking shots at Poilievre . As Ontario Provincial Conservatives are a completely different bird from the Federal Conservatives I can tell you they haven’t had my vote in many years.
I read the piece on how Ford and Poilievre arrived at some sort of impasse. Thank you.
Given that Ford is generally a congenial guy and Poilievre is pragmatic and good at bringing in numbers, is it possible that the chill is not actually between the two men, but rather something that has been stoked by the Ford circle faces we currently see and previously saw criticizing Poilievre?
I've been in rooms in Toronto for years where people high in Poilievre's circle have loudly insulted Ford when they know the insults will get back to him. That was years before what Teneycke did in the last election.
The hatred of Ford among many of the Poilievre people is tied up in COVID politics, something most Canadians have moved on from and want to forget happened.
Ford first of all met Carney for breakfast. That there changed everything.
Then the day of the 2025 election Ford for no reason called out Pierre. Weeks prior to that Kory Teneycke sat in on the Vassy CTV panel and began attacking Pierre constantly days leading up to the election. It is very likely that it was all a plan to stop Pierre.
Basically the position of these so called “conservatives” is “if we’re not directly involved we’ll sabotage you”. Sounds like a group of people in it for themselves not because they believe that conservatism is best for the country and its people.
Yep, last election Poilievre had the most votes in Conserative history and started a genuine Conserative youth movement by giving young Canadians a voice. Unfortunately he lost due to the collapse of the NDP and liberal propaganda regarding Trump (elbows up). Had conservatives stayed united we’d have a far bigger impact in parliament. Instead we have floor crossers and red Tory’s who are attempting to sabotage Poilievre for their own personal gain. Re Ford, I live in Ontario and will not support him next election. I’d much prefer a Poilievre federal government with a liberal provincial government than a federal liberal government and a premiere who cosies up to the worst government in Canadian history helping them maintain power.
You really don’t understand what has been happening to Canada for well over the past decade. The governance of Canada is no longer in the hands or direction of Canadian leadership.
One World Order: One China Order. Manipulation, coercion and direction have changed the landscape…globally. And Canada is more than willing to comply. Petty attitudes to the obvious plays into the plan.
You can’t possibly believe that Styles and whoever wins the Provincial Liberal leadership race, could possibly be better than Ford. Ridiculous thought let alone a reality. We’re still trying to rectify the monumental mess of the Ray, McGinty, Wynn area of three terms of failures.
If nothing else , Ford understands the economy. By the way, without a strong one, no one gets their provincial handouts to everyone’s causes. If Canadians, in general, had any modicum of economic or financial acumen or understanding, they would understand the need for common sense and a strong economy.
Ford is a Liberal the PC party has never really been Conservative after the Federal party died. Stop calling PC conservatives they are progressives equal to Liberals
And does he/she also describe him/herself as "a tribal Conservative", as did Fred DeLorey? That's the kind of Conservative Delorey strikes me as recently. Teneycke is nothing more than a self-serving snake, and Nick Kouvalis is trouble.
Isn't it possible that there's a deeper story here, not solely about boys not getting along (though I agree their behaviour is deeply unhelpful). For one thing, I'm getting the sense of a strange reversal of the traditional divisions between "true blue" conservatives and red tories. It seems the red tories are now social conservatives, going on the Elliott campaign here in BC (relatively speaking, at least as far as rhetoric goes--the anti-woke talk) but fiscally liberal--the opposite of what was the case a couple of decades ago. The true blue tories now are both fiscally conservative (lower taxes, lower debt) but are proposing a new vision and some real disruption to the "managed decline" (big debts, big spending) that seems to be the main fiscal approach of both the red tories and the liberals.
Some true blues seem less likely to lean into the anti-woke rhetoric for their conservative bona fides than the new red tories do (then other factions within this group are over the top in the anti-woke rhetoric). I hear the arguments about the true blues being unable to win, but then, what's the point of winning if your fiscal management is indistinguishable from the Liberals?
In short, the conservatives in the 2020s seem to be a wild mashup, and I wish the unifying message could be anti-managed decline. It seems though that some factions of the party (I'm thinking of the Teneycke faction) are benefiting from the status quo.
I can guess why the Conservatives do the infighting, and Liberals don't. It's because many Conservatives are people of principles (and consequently of strong opinions), and today's Liberals are devoid of that - they're just opportunists, clinging to the power.
Eastern and western conservatives are two very different beasts. Eastern conservatives are more closely aligned with the Laurentian consensus whereas western conservatives are a lot more independent minded. Eastern conservatives are a lot more like liberals of old. The current liberals have no principles; for them getting to power and staying in power are the only two things that matter. For conservatives, being fair matters more than power but unfortunately, that doesn’t win elections in Canada.
Leaders like Stephen Harper that can unite both conservative factions only come around once in a blue moon.
Conservatives will have to find a way to come together otherwise, the liberals will keep power and will keep driving the economy in the tank and further divide the population if that’s even possible.
I agree 100%. I wonder if Canadians actually realize what’s happening within Canada. I’ve never seen such division in my many years as an adult. And I’ve never been as concerned about Canada’s independence and future.
By the time the proverbial light bulb goes on, it’ll be too late to change these Liberal supporters mindset. You would think by now that Carney’s “leadership doesn’t seem to be going as planned …or is it.
Carney is doing exactly what he had planned but voters are so gullible and apathetic, they’ll let him do and say whatever he wants, to the detriment of the country.
A house divided cannot stand! (Mark 3:25). With a neo Marxist, atheist government, we are now becoming more divided than ever before. Canada will not progress. We do not control our destiny.
Ford wants the Cons leadership & the PM job. I will never vote Cons under Ford. I think there are a lot of us who feel that way. Kory was one of the Bernier group - bid for leadership too, as well as removing Scheer. The best place for Kory to be is out.. out of the job, out of the press, & out of anything to do with the CPC.. silent.
Brian liley anyone who isn't blind deaf or stupid knows full well Ford is a liberal dressed as a conservative
And so is Kory Tenekye. Whatever the hell he was doing as Caroline Elliot’s campaign manager is beyond me.
It doesn't matter, he wins and wants to gravitate to the CPC side of things.
I am very tired of the constant criticism of Pierre Poilievre. I am not sure why we have a perpetual lack of guidance and leadership from the Federal Conservative Party's National Council. Currently there 20 members on the executive...that seem to be teflon coated when it comes to all the misdirection and lack of unity between the the provincial and federal conservative parties. Time to clean house find some back bone and party whips within the executive?
Totally agree?
Tenecyke, Deloran, Ford are pretend conservatives.
If any of them think for one second they’ll get rid of Pierre and install Ford that won’t happen, they’ll lose their base and most of their memberships.
Tenecyke has made it clear he’s out to get rid of Pierre, tge executives needs to put a stop to it.
Sometimes you just have to wonder…just how deeply embedded is the obvious foreign interference? If you watch Question Period (CTV)(I know MSM)…Teneyke had been off for a while (campaign mgr for BC Conservative leadership). When he returned his demeanour and comments were surprising. As was his agreement with Scot (Liberal supporter on CTV) on the weekly panel. There’s something definitely NOT kosher about the change in attitude.
Pollievre is either very badly managed and therefore sabotaged…or the foreign interference is working overtime. Both can be true or just well coordinated. The CCP are extremely good at manipulation.
He was in BC (certainly wasn’t missed) he lost that race, one might say he lost a sure thing, you might even say it was campaign malpractice.
He claims Pierre was looking to be A-hole and chief, NOT POSSIBLE, KORY T was awarded that title ages ago JERK!
Agreed. His true colors are definitely showing. Why and how did the conservatives end in such an upheaval. It seems more than likely that coercion and self preservation is the answer.
Pierre has already said he's not going anywhere myself included need to keep on believing that one day eventually when people have had enough of living in shit ran liberal Land they will be sorta forced to say MAYBE THIS ISN'T WORKING OUT
Starting with any connection Kory Teneycke has!! Both Teneycke and Nick Kouvalis simply must be gone!!! They are both self-serving.
And it would seem Fred Delorey has a stick that he likes to poke into Pierre Poilievre every chance he gets as well. Delorey is adding nothing positive to the CPC at this time regardless of his past credits.
Is not most every politician these days self serving? YES ! Not many are “for Canada”. It’s a well paying job, with no accountability to anyone. They can’t be impeached or almost never fired. They can and do say whatever they like to please whoever but never do you hear them say how they are good for Canada. It’s so obvious, and so frustrating. PP is the only one I have ever heard speak of improving things for Canada and does it in a selfless way. He is definitely for the people and definitely not a tyrant like the last two Liberal leaders. The things a Liberal MP spews are so far off a value for Canada it’s frigging nauseating. How they get voted for is completely mind boggling. I’m all for Canada but not down the liberal road. Liberal lies and tyranny has ruined this country, very obvious.
What they need to do during the summer is go on a retreat air their shit out there figure shit out come back and be on the same page they obviously are on the same page but with those floor crossers something is going on internally and they need to figure that shit out first and foremost
I did not vote in the BC Conservative race as I did not like any candidate. I also have great dislike for Kory Teneycke and Nick Kouvalis. Both of these individuals benefit from the status quo of managed decline.
The fighting seemed to pop up again the moment the BC Conservative race was decided. Lets be honest, in a race that close the presence of Kory and Nick on Elliots team could have cost her the race. The grassroots of conservatism, here in the west, seem to not like Teneycke. KFL used it to her advantage. Nick did himself, and Elliot, no favours as well. I am talking about his deranged X rants hurled towards members of BC Conservatives.
As for Jamil, he should have keep that thought to himself. Kory should have not been such a prick on CTV, fresh of his loss in BC.
As a BC Conservative member who did vote for the leadership winning candidate I can confirm that Eliot lost much potential support as her eastern PC campaign team kept her out of the first debate. Huge miscalculation. Also lack of actual leadership experience in government, Liberal backroom history, and a wish washy anti social conservatism attitude made her harder Conservative stances suspect, and worse as she tried to deny it. Just the idea of a Liberal insider supported by FORD PCs doesn’t impress a majority of members in BC. The BC Conservative Party like the unaffiliated national CPC will be the winds of change in government. Pandering to the pink PC pretenders will not further the conservative cause. Tenycke is not the man to lead any real conservative campaign. He is arrogant and divisive in his statements. Remind you of anything?
I welcome Eliot to get elected and take up a portfolio and prove herself. Maybe her time will come.
Footnote: the red Tory PC party was kicked to the curb by the Canadian Alliance long ago. Those eastern pols who are trying to recreate the national PC party are going to lose. Their time is long gone. Good riddance.
I agree, Brian, that your article was a well-written piece of work.
Conservatives, Progressive Conservatives, and principled conservatives seem to agree on a great deal more than about which all they are supposed to disagree.
This is a personal disagreement, far more so than it as a professional disagreement.
My respectful challenge to you is this: why bother being an ostensibly Conservative Party, or leader, if you have no intention of pursuing conservative policies?
Growing government debt. Massive subsidies to industry. Failing socialized medicine. Failing public schools that serve the need of the bureaucracy, the administrative state, and the teachers, as opposed to the parents and students.
No demonstrative action on the concurrent homelessness/drug addiction file. Taxes that force families to choose between rent and groceries. A university system loaded with tumescent bloat and shocking bureaucratic inertia.
Shall I go on?
I mean, the Liberal and NDP alliance could have delivered these results.
And they did. Do you remember the Ray, McGinty, Wynne years of disasters. We had to “get out from under”…then COVID hit.
Keep in mind change takes time. And all the handouts an improvements take MONEY. We need a prosperous Ontario.
That fighting in public is exactly why we can't get rid of the elites and get the "people" back in power. I have noticed that with the Freedom movement and the Alberta separation movement as well. Agree to disagree, compromise, move forward. Premier Daneille Smith is the perfect example of taking the high road. She sees the positive and uses that angle rather than negativity and bashing. Many leaders could/should learn from her example.
I like the way you put that.
I would like to believe that. But unfortunately, Carney and the CCP have their own agenda. They will stretch time out with promises and agreements and no immediate action. Then the proverbial axe will fall. This will happen if Canadians don’t act on their values, their belief in their Country, and their unique sovereignty. We can all see what’s happening. We need to act , not react.
Not really sure electing Poilievre is bringing back the “people” - he has been feeding at the government trough since his early twenties. Meanwhile he lives in a government provided 8-bedroom mansion - Stornoway - plus has a chef, housekeeper, chauffeur and a $78,000 annual budget for operating costs provided for him on top of his $300000 salary and ridiculous pension. An Ottawa elite despite the rhetoric.
Time for some new blood as leader, preferably someone who can bring the perspective of a successful private sector career outside the Ottawa bubble.
You’re a liberal and support Carney
I did not actually say we should elect Pierre Poilievre, although if I had a choice between him and what we have, (place picture of woman shrugging shoulders here).
Suggestions?
How about someone like Jim Balsillie?
Too smart to enter the political arena.
Unfortunately I think you are right, the toxic political environment doesn’t make it appealing for accomplished individuals to enter, so we are stuck with too many Poli Sci grads who spend their whole career in politics.
Yet when an “ordinary individual” enters the political arena, the masses want him out (Mike Harris). He didn’t agree with many social programs, especially welfare. Edie silly the generational aspect. So who would be the best candidate. So can’t please all of the people all of the time. But you certainly can alienate the majority of the people. Especially when the majority of a nation do not benefit by the reigning government’s policies and debt load. 😉
Good points. It’s about time for a new CPC leader who is actually competent and doesn’t engage in grievance politics. The new leader should try to build something rather than just tear things down.
Pay attention. He is. The Conservatives are not in power, therefore can only present arguments and solutions. Apparently Carney isn’t willing to listen.
And elections are determined through foreign interference elements.
What do you suggest.
Pierre is not proposing any solutions. Build Canada. Make Canada safer. Build the military. But where are the details? Besides, these things are already being done if you actually look for it. But haven’t really heard anything from Pierre since he declared “Canada is in recession!” and the strong jobs report refuted that statement. But that is only one data point, you need to assess more factors in order to come to an informed conclusion. The jury is still out on where we are actually headed but several indicators are positive.
Ford is the most Liberal Conservative I’ve ever seen and Tenenycke has shown he’s actively gunning for Pierre. I find Tenenycke to be thoroughly distasteful. I too am sick of people taking shots at Poilievre . As Ontario Provincial Conservatives are a completely different bird from the Federal Conservatives I can tell you they haven’t had my vote in many years.
Brian, your work is more important now than ever.
I read the piece on how Ford and Poilievre arrived at some sort of impasse. Thank you.
Given that Ford is generally a congenial guy and Poilievre is pragmatic and good at bringing in numbers, is it possible that the chill is not actually between the two men, but rather something that has been stoked by the Ford circle faces we currently see and previously saw criticizing Poilievre?
Interesting question.
I've been in rooms in Toronto for years where people high in Poilievre's circle have loudly insulted Ford when they know the insults will get back to him. That was years before what Teneycke did in the last election.
The hatred of Ford among many of the Poilievre people is tied up in COVID politics, something most Canadians have moved on from and want to forget happened.
Ford first of all met Carney for breakfast. That there changed everything.
Then the day of the 2025 election Ford for no reason called out Pierre. Weeks prior to that Kory Teneycke sat in on the Vassy CTV panel and began attacking Pierre constantly days leading up to the election. It is very likely that it was all a plan to stop Pierre.
That is a very good answer to an interesting question.
Interesting take.
Basically the position of these so called “conservatives” is “if we’re not directly involved we’ll sabotage you”. Sounds like a group of people in it for themselves not because they believe that conservatism is best for the country and its people.
Yep, last election Poilievre had the most votes in Conserative history and started a genuine Conserative youth movement by giving young Canadians a voice. Unfortunately he lost due to the collapse of the NDP and liberal propaganda regarding Trump (elbows up). Had conservatives stayed united we’d have a far bigger impact in parliament. Instead we have floor crossers and red Tory’s who are attempting to sabotage Poilievre for their own personal gain. Re Ford, I live in Ontario and will not support him next election. I’d much prefer a Poilievre federal government with a liberal provincial government than a federal liberal government and a premiere who cosies up to the worst government in Canadian history helping them maintain power.
You really don’t understand what has been happening to Canada for well over the past decade. The governance of Canada is no longer in the hands or direction of Canadian leadership.
One World Order: One China Order. Manipulation, coercion and direction have changed the landscape…globally. And Canada is more than willing to comply. Petty attitudes to the obvious plays into the plan.
Not a conspiracy theory. Fact
You can’t possibly believe that Styles and whoever wins the Provincial Liberal leadership race, could possibly be better than Ford. Ridiculous thought let alone a reality. We’re still trying to rectify the monumental mess of the Ray, McGinty, Wynn area of three terms of failures.
If nothing else , Ford understands the economy. By the way, without a strong one, no one gets their provincial handouts to everyone’s causes. If Canadians, in general, had any modicum of economic or financial acumen or understanding, they would understand the need for common sense and a strong economy.
Agreed! The infighting needs to stop. Conservatives need to realize that no one is perfect, but any Conservative is better than a liberal!!
Ford is a Liberal the PC party has never really been Conservative after the Federal party died. Stop calling PC conservatives they are progressives equal to Liberals
I am a board member of both my federal Conservative EDA, and my local Progressive Conservative EDA, here in London, Ontario.
The President of our PC EDA publicly endorsed the Liberal Federal candidate Peter Fragiskatos in the last Federal Election.
And does he/she also describe him/herself as "a tribal Conservative", as did Fred DeLorey? That's the kind of Conservative Delorey strikes me as recently. Teneycke is nothing more than a self-serving snake, and Nick Kouvalis is trouble.
It’s funny that people like you try and justify the Liberal infighting by pretending it’s happening to other parties
Isn't it possible that there's a deeper story here, not solely about boys not getting along (though I agree their behaviour is deeply unhelpful). For one thing, I'm getting the sense of a strange reversal of the traditional divisions between "true blue" conservatives and red tories. It seems the red tories are now social conservatives, going on the Elliott campaign here in BC (relatively speaking, at least as far as rhetoric goes--the anti-woke talk) but fiscally liberal--the opposite of what was the case a couple of decades ago. The true blue tories now are both fiscally conservative (lower taxes, lower debt) but are proposing a new vision and some real disruption to the "managed decline" (big debts, big spending) that seems to be the main fiscal approach of both the red tories and the liberals.
Some true blues seem less likely to lean into the anti-woke rhetoric for their conservative bona fides than the new red tories do (then other factions within this group are over the top in the anti-woke rhetoric). I hear the arguments about the true blues being unable to win, but then, what's the point of winning if your fiscal management is indistinguishable from the Liberals?
In short, the conservatives in the 2020s seem to be a wild mashup, and I wish the unifying message could be anti-managed decline. It seems though that some factions of the party (I'm thinking of the Teneycke faction) are benefiting from the status quo.
Agreed 100%
Ford is far from a conservative. And he is about as anti Canada and Alberta as the rest of the Eastern Traitors!
Really…why? Back up your comment.
I can guess why the Conservatives do the infighting, and Liberals don't. It's because many Conservatives are people of principles (and consequently of strong opinions), and today's Liberals are devoid of that - they're just opportunists, clinging to the power.
Eastern and western conservatives are two very different beasts. Eastern conservatives are more closely aligned with the Laurentian consensus whereas western conservatives are a lot more independent minded. Eastern conservatives are a lot more like liberals of old. The current liberals have no principles; for them getting to power and staying in power are the only two things that matter. For conservatives, being fair matters more than power but unfortunately, that doesn’t win elections in Canada.
Leaders like Stephen Harper that can unite both conservative factions only come around once in a blue moon.
Conservatives will have to find a way to come together otherwise, the liberals will keep power and will keep driving the economy in the tank and further divide the population if that’s even possible.
It is. And it will happen. Canadians do not matter just what the country itself has to offer.
I don’t know how much more division this country can take!
I agree 100%. I wonder if Canadians actually realize what’s happening within Canada. I’ve never seen such division in my many years as an adult. And I’ve never been as concerned about Canada’s independence and future.
Unfortunately, this is how the liberals rule; they divide the nation then swoop in as the proverbial saviour.
It's great for their election fortunes but very destructive for national unity.
Must be what Canadians want though since the liberals, under the absolute worst leadership ever, have won the last four elections.
By the time the proverbial light bulb goes on, it’ll be too late to change these Liberal supporters mindset. You would think by now that Carney’s “leadership doesn’t seem to be going as planned …or is it.
Carney is doing exactly what he had planned but voters are so gullible and apathetic, they’ll let him do and say whatever he wants, to the detriment of the country.
A house divided cannot stand! (Mark 3:25). With a neo Marxist, atheist government, we are now becoming more divided than ever before. Canada will not progress. We do not control our destiny.
Ford wants the Cons leadership & the PM job. I will never vote Cons under Ford. I think there are a lot of us who feel that way. Kory was one of the Bernier group - bid for leadership too, as well as removing Scheer. The best place for Kory to be is out.. out of the job, out of the press, & out of anything to do with the CPC.. silent.