Carney certainly isn't the leader he sold himself to be. He is a weak leader leading an under achieving team of activists, has been and inept mp's. Too bad central and eastern Canadians can't see that.
You can't seriously think Poilievre is as inept as Carney. Poilievre may not be your cup of tea but he's a strong leader leading an extremely strong team. In comparison, Carney looks like he's leading a team of keystone cops. Unfortunately, the legacy media and the perpetually scared elbows up brigade have done a good job of vilifying everything conservative so we find ourselves in the situation we're in. A government that can't make a decision without forming a new committee and running opinion polls and an opposition that can't form government because the Canadian sheeple think he sounds too mean... Canada is not a serious country.
If he was so strong and such a great leader why did he blow a TWENTY SEVEN POINT LEAD IN THE POLLS. Stop deluding yourself. I will tell you why he is still there. We, meaning us conservatives have nothing better to offer. Just like the liberals during the pre Stephen Harper era." The Liberals were about to be destroyed again in an election, that is until they took a gamble on some young individual that became their Saviour. And your nightmare.
So YMS list please list ALL the accomplishments of Pierre Poilievre's Twenty Plus years in Parliment.
List them below in your rebuttal, response, it should take but a second.
PP created a massive blue wave that brought out the younger generations like has not been seen since Trudy’s first campaign. There’s a good many of us conservatives who appreciate his leadership style very much. Honest, fearless, calls a spade a spade. ANSWERS MOST QUESTIONs. Granted he’s not perfect. Trudy was selected. Carny was selected. Our country has been taken over by WEF and the UN.
Under Poilievre, the conservatives got over 40% of the popular vote. When Carney came on the scene, the legacy media instantly started carrying water for him, painting him as the adult Canada needed to deal with Trump. They also sold him as fiscal genius who was going to bring Canada back from the brinks. The NDP vote collapsed due to Jagmeet's extreme ineptitude. Just like that, the elbows up sheeple completely coalesced behind Carney since he was going to rescue them from the Trump factor. Some of the support behind Poilievre may have been soft but overall, the conservative showing should have won them a majority had it not been for the entire left vote lining up behind Carney, shaking in their boots. All this to say, some of the conservative vote intentions may have been as a result of wanting to punt Trudeau out, Carney benefited from a lining up of the stars to win the elections. Can Poilievre win the next elections? Perhaps, perhaps not, who knows. Give Carney enough time, Canadians may come to realize he isn't what he sold himself to be, even the legacy media may come to realize it. Canada is a very strange unicorn land.
That sounds like a lot of excuses for PP blowing a huge pre election lead and then to top it off, not even winning his own seat. Now he slinks back into Parliament in the safest Conservative seat in the country. That’s not exactly sterling leadership. But the original question was to provide a list of accomplishments for PP in his 20 years in politics. And I’d also take any accomplishments from PP in the private sector aside from political criticism. We’re still waiting.
Once again! Please stop the deflection. It was a very simple request. I ask for accomplishments? You are unable to respond. I could give a rats ass about the previous individual who was elected in the year 2015. Or Mark Carney.
So last time, list the accomplishments of Pierre Poilievre in over twenty plus years of being in parliment.
As I said it should take but a minute to respond..
How exactly will we ever know how he would do as a PM? The center east won’t allow for it to happen. Instead we languish and watch our standard of living plummet and dangerous newcomers takeover. In Europe and the UK their percentage of rapes has risen from 6000 to 68000. I fear our women and children are in for a very precarious future. I seriously hope the west and Quebec separate. I haven’t considered myself a Canadian since Trudy was selected the second go around.
Just like the center east stopped Stephen Harper? Brian Mulroney? The art of Politics its convincing a Majority of The People that you,your party, is the right way to go.
Unfortunately today most conservative or far right parties in many countries are blaming immigrants for all of their woes. It’s their go to response, it seems.
I am a conservative with what many would call extremist views, with regards to immigration, fiscal policies, energy, education.....
I will use an example to demonstrate the harms that xenophobia can and does have on a country. We saw the harm brexit caused to immigrant populations in the UK. Even going a far as the murder of polish people for " illegally" living in Britain. Now they are suffering from a wave of illegal immigrants that are destroying the very fabric and institutions that made the UK great. One could say from one extreme to another. The solution for The UK is to remove itself as a signatory of the EHRC.
And here in lies the problem for many a "western" nation. We are not immune from such acts of xenophobia, while at the same time we, meaning Canada, The UK, Australia, the US, we have let in people from diverse nations that do not have shared values. Or even Accepting the notion that with immigration there comes the obligation of assimilation to their new countries values, laws and customs is foreign to them. That is on us, not the immigrants who come to the west.
Nothing has changed since the building of the Trans Canadian Pipeline, The St Louis in 1939, The Irish, Italian, Greeks, Vietnamese,......
Yes, at one time Canada brought in Immigrants with trades skills. Now we bring in millions of economic migrants with few, if any trades skills and our tax funds pay them to stay in hotels b/cause we don't have housing built for them. So who will they vote for - the political party that supports that model? Or will they go to trades schools in Canada?
Oh, all living 7th gen+ post WWII Canadians see the tyranny in technicolor. You do know that the next move of the communists is to test and to take away the driving licenses of the Seniors over 70 who may fail the proposed new online road testing soon to be sent to your inbox, assuming you still work online or have an e-mail address? I suppose you'll get a letter in the mail if you don't have an online e-mail. I guess we'll get a horse and buggy to go to town for groceries...or order online...or, heck, just hire a driver or sell the vehicles and jump off the nearest bridge? I wonder how the over 70 year old+ politicians will deal with this new law? I wonder if crossing the floor will save any of the older Conservatives that cross to keep their driver license??
Why anyone in Canada believed a failed and very disliked banker could run a country already broken by a tool of a Prime Minister says more about the low IQ of voters here. When people from another country feel the need to warn you what a terrible mistake you’re making a huge mistake voting him in, maybe you deserve this. Well maybe when the pains bad enough you will hit the streets by the thousands or just be the timid, rule following little kids you have always been Canada
Great Job Claudette, sounding just like a Democrat down south. Disparaging Republican voters, with the exact same jargon. Worked out well for them didn't it?
My problem with Carney, Hodgson and their BFFs like Guzman is that they all cut their teeth at Goldman Sachs. And now we are talking about a former Blackrock guy as the Canadian ambassador to the US who got fired from there who wants to bring in even more immigrants. It is so cute that the left thinks they aren't for anyone but the upper one per cent(and themselves). Look at the folks who supported Carney's leadership. The elite of the Laurentian Elite. I am one of the one per centers and have enjoyed the wealth shift of the last ten years thanks to Justin and his inflationary policies and will continue to enjoy it as long as these guys are in charge. Elbows up and buy Brookfield! If you can't beat them you might as well enjoy the ride. It is the dirty little secret since 2015. Look at Brookfield's performance since the election. A primer on the GS graduates:
Wiseman, who I know well, is something of a Carneyesque figure in that he has a brilliant mind for finance. (Also for law, the setting in which I got to know him.) I think the Americans would respond well to Mark.
Isn’t he associated with The Century Initiative? The organization that wants our population to be 100 million by 2100, and I think there’s a clip of him saying to skip the vetting process to hurry immigration along. That doesn’t sound like a good choice to me
I believe you are right about that. It doesn’t surprise me that he’s in the same general place as Matt Yglesias (“One Billion Americans”). I’m not sure it bears on his fitness to be Ambassador, but it could be a reason to disagree with him on policy.
Fair point. Mark is not on the same page as the Trumpers when it comes to immigration. (I assume his policy proposal isn’t that all existing Canadian couples should have four or five kids each!)
Trust me Conn. Even if he tried to mandate existing Canadian couples to have four or five kids that would be a colossal failure. What me,give up my comfortable life style for kids, that would prove to be much much to inconvenient. My Lattes, Vacations down south, my new SUV........
Of course the U.S. wants more Canadian oil. They make around 30 billion a yr profit off of Albertas and Saskatchewan oil. They also make money in Saskatchewan off of potash. The two largest potash companies in the province are American companies. Mosaic and Nutrien 8 billion a yr profits. Only 1.8 goes back to Saskatchewan coffers. We need markets and we need Canadian companies and the provinces themselves profiting from those resources.
Dob't agree with you about Carney not dancing the YMCA song. The videos of him dancing after the election win show he doesnt care about looking weitd dancing. It was pure anti Trump and even for him not being seen as sucking up to Trump for voters back home.
Still no coverage of the speaker of the house and his expensive Jamaican vacation.
Brian - i agree that the Cdn bum in the Ambassadorial chair in Washington, should be a politician’s. There are delicate considerations: to MAGA or not to MAGA? If Caroline Mulroney conjures the ghost of her dad for some octogenarian R Senators, is that going to get us what we need from the new Congress? Everyone under 40 in the Beltway is an economic nationalist - who are we courting? Other consideration: the mid-terms. What if the script flips, and the Dems win Congressional control? I agree a political figure is the one you want - but someone who is equally adept with Zonron Mandani, and Josh Hawley. I think that is Kenney - never seen anyone work a room better, or dial a speech, recently anyway
Carney certainly isn't the leader he sold himself to be. He is a weak leader leading an under achieving team of activists, has been and inept mp's. Too bad central and eastern Canadians can't see that.
The same goes for the conservative leader.
You can't seriously think Poilievre is as inept as Carney. Poilievre may not be your cup of tea but he's a strong leader leading an extremely strong team. In comparison, Carney looks like he's leading a team of keystone cops. Unfortunately, the legacy media and the perpetually scared elbows up brigade have done a good job of vilifying everything conservative so we find ourselves in the situation we're in. A government that can't make a decision without forming a new committee and running opinion polls and an opposition that can't form government because the Canadian sheeple think he sounds too mean... Canada is not a serious country.
Can you stop with the strong leader BS.
If he was so strong and such a great leader why did he blow a TWENTY SEVEN POINT LEAD IN THE POLLS. Stop deluding yourself. I will tell you why he is still there. We, meaning us conservatives have nothing better to offer. Just like the liberals during the pre Stephen Harper era." The Liberals were about to be destroyed again in an election, that is until they took a gamble on some young individual that became their Saviour. And your nightmare.
So YMS list please list ALL the accomplishments of Pierre Poilievre's Twenty Plus years in Parliment.
List them below in your rebuttal, response, it should take but a second.
PP created a massive blue wave that brought out the younger generations like has not been seen since Trudy’s first campaign. There’s a good many of us conservatives who appreciate his leadership style very much. Honest, fearless, calls a spade a spade. ANSWERS MOST QUESTIONs. Granted he’s not perfect. Trudy was selected. Carny was selected. Our country has been taken over by WEF and the UN.
I asked for his accomplishments in Twenty Plus years in Parliment. What is your response? A blue wave.
List his accomplishments........
Under Poilievre, the conservatives got over 40% of the popular vote. When Carney came on the scene, the legacy media instantly started carrying water for him, painting him as the adult Canada needed to deal with Trump. They also sold him as fiscal genius who was going to bring Canada back from the brinks. The NDP vote collapsed due to Jagmeet's extreme ineptitude. Just like that, the elbows up sheeple completely coalesced behind Carney since he was going to rescue them from the Trump factor. Some of the support behind Poilievre may have been soft but overall, the conservative showing should have won them a majority had it not been for the entire left vote lining up behind Carney, shaking in their boots. All this to say, some of the conservative vote intentions may have been as a result of wanting to punt Trudeau out, Carney benefited from a lining up of the stars to win the elections. Can Poilievre win the next elections? Perhaps, perhaps not, who knows. Give Carney enough time, Canadians may come to realize he isn't what he sold himself to be, even the legacy media may come to realize it. Canada is a very strange unicorn land.
That sounds like a lot of excuses for PP blowing a huge pre election lead and then to top it off, not even winning his own seat. Now he slinks back into Parliament in the safest Conservative seat in the country. That’s not exactly sterling leadership. But the original question was to provide a list of accomplishments for PP in his 20 years in politics. And I’d also take any accomplishments from PP in the private sector aside from political criticism. We’re still waiting.
Once again! Please stop the deflection. It was a very simple request. I ask for accomplishments? You are unable to respond. I could give a rats ass about the previous individual who was elected in the year 2015. Or Mark Carney.
So last time, list the accomplishments of Pierre Poilievre in over twenty plus years of being in parliment.
As I said it should take but a minute to respond..
How exactly will we ever know how he would do as a PM? The center east won’t allow for it to happen. Instead we languish and watch our standard of living plummet and dangerous newcomers takeover. In Europe and the UK their percentage of rapes has risen from 6000 to 68000. I fear our women and children are in for a very precarious future. I seriously hope the west and Quebec separate. I haven’t considered myself a Canadian since Trudy was selected the second go around.
Just like the center east stopped Stephen Harper? Brian Mulroney? The art of Politics its convincing a Majority of The People that you,your party, is the right way to go.
Do Better.
How does a conversation go from Canadian Politics to rapes in the UK?
Unfortunately today most conservative or far right parties in many countries are blaming immigrants for all of their woes. It’s their go to response, it seems.
I am a conservative with what many would call extremist views, with regards to immigration, fiscal policies, energy, education.....
I will use an example to demonstrate the harms that xenophobia can and does have on a country. We saw the harm brexit caused to immigrant populations in the UK. Even going a far as the murder of polish people for " illegally" living in Britain. Now they are suffering from a wave of illegal immigrants that are destroying the very fabric and institutions that made the UK great. One could say from one extreme to another. The solution for The UK is to remove itself as a signatory of the EHRC.
And here in lies the problem for many a "western" nation. We are not immune from such acts of xenophobia, while at the same time we, meaning Canada, The UK, Australia, the US, we have let in people from diverse nations that do not have shared values. Or even Accepting the notion that with immigration there comes the obligation of assimilation to their new countries values, laws and customs is foreign to them. That is on us, not the immigrants who come to the west.
Nothing has changed since the building of the Trans Canadian Pipeline, The St Louis in 1939, The Irish, Italian, Greeks, Vietnamese,......
Yes, at one time Canada brought in Immigrants with trades skills. Now we bring in millions of economic migrants with few, if any trades skills and our tax funds pay them to stay in hotels b/cause we don't have housing built for them. So who will they vote for - the political party that supports that model? Or will they go to trades schools in Canada?
Oh, all living 7th gen+ post WWII Canadians see the tyranny in technicolor. You do know that the next move of the communists is to test and to take away the driving licenses of the Seniors over 70 who may fail the proposed new online road testing soon to be sent to your inbox, assuming you still work online or have an e-mail address? I suppose you'll get a letter in the mail if you don't have an online e-mail. I guess we'll get a horse and buggy to go to town for groceries...or order online...or, heck, just hire a driver or sell the vehicles and jump off the nearest bridge? I wonder how the over 70 year old+ politicians will deal with this new law? I wonder if crossing the floor will save any of the older Conservatives that cross to keep their driver license??
Canadian Ambassador to Washington ? It's a toss up.
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Don Cherry or David Menzies
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Oh, you are provocative, ROC, but I just gave you a thumbs up for the concept of poking MC in the eye with that suggestion.
Also, given that Don Cherry is rather old, I guess that you are really nominating Menzies, right?
IT WAS A TRAP
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We’d threaten to send Sheila Gunn-Reid if they didn’t accept David.
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SEND SHEILA AND LISE MERLE....A DYNAMIC REBEL NEWS DUO WITH BRAINS 3 X THE SIZE OF TRUDEAU, FREELAND'S OR CARNEY'S ADDED TOGETHER.
My vote would be 99-would not have to move. And Carney is already a groupie. With 4 as his assistant.
Why anyone in Canada believed a failed and very disliked banker could run a country already broken by a tool of a Prime Minister says more about the low IQ of voters here. When people from another country feel the need to warn you what a terrible mistake you’re making a huge mistake voting him in, maybe you deserve this. Well maybe when the pains bad enough you will hit the streets by the thousands or just be the timid, rule following little kids you have always been Canada
Great Job Claudette, sounding just like a Democrat down south. Disparaging Republican voters, with the exact same jargon. Worked out well for them didn't it?
My problem with Carney, Hodgson and their BFFs like Guzman is that they all cut their teeth at Goldman Sachs. And now we are talking about a former Blackrock guy as the Canadian ambassador to the US who got fired from there who wants to bring in even more immigrants. It is so cute that the left thinks they aren't for anyone but the upper one per cent(and themselves). Look at the folks who supported Carney's leadership. The elite of the Laurentian Elite. I am one of the one per centers and have enjoyed the wealth shift of the last ten years thanks to Justin and his inflationary policies and will continue to enjoy it as long as these guys are in charge. Elbows up and buy Brookfield! If you can't beat them you might as well enjoy the ride. It is the dirty little secret since 2015. Look at Brookfield's performance since the election. A primer on the GS graduates:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-195229/
Most of them should have gone to jail for marketing and short selling the sub prime shite at the same time.
And where did Poilievre cut his teeth? Telus call center? Please stop embarrassing yourself.
At least he didn’t almost bring the entire world financial system down while there. And, hey, I will continue to enjoy the ride!
He actually helped to stop Truss from her seemingly determined efforts to destroy the banking system.
Thank you for making my point. Carney took care of the one percent there too.
Reports are Wiseman is the frontrunner for US ambassador? Your thoughts?
Wiseman, who I know well, is something of a Carneyesque figure in that he has a brilliant mind for finance. (Also for law, the setting in which I got to know him.) I think the Americans would respond well to Mark.
Thank you for your insight.
Isn’t he associated with The Century Initiative? The organization that wants our population to be 100 million by 2100, and I think there’s a clip of him saying to skip the vetting process to hurry immigration along. That doesn’t sound like a good choice to me
I believe you are right about that. It doesn’t surprise me that he’s in the same general place as Matt Yglesias (“One Billion Americans”). I’m not sure it bears on his fitness to be Ambassador, but it could be a reason to disagree with him on policy.
If the US administration is anti-immigration and warning the E.U. they are destroying themselves through immigration it might be a bit tricky?
Fair point. Mark is not on the same page as the Trumpers when it comes to immigration. (I assume his policy proposal isn’t that all existing Canadian couples should have four or five kids each!)
Trust me Conn. Even if he tried to mandate existing Canadian couples to have four or five kids that would be a colossal failure. What me,give up my comfortable life style for kids, that would prove to be much much to inconvenient. My Lattes, Vacations down south, my new SUV........
I actually thought that Hillman did a pretty good job hedging her bets before the election. As I said elsewhere when someone suggested Wiseman:
“Ex Blackrock executive who co-founded the Century Initiative. What could go wrong.”
Of course the U.S. wants more Canadian oil. They make around 30 billion a yr profit off of Albertas and Saskatchewan oil. They also make money in Saskatchewan off of potash. The two largest potash companies in the province are American companies. Mosaic and Nutrien 8 billion a yr profits. Only 1.8 goes back to Saskatchewan coffers. We need markets and we need Canadian companies and the provinces themselves profiting from those resources.
Send the dynamic duo of Chow and Eby.
Poilievre was one upped by Carney. Its getting to the point where most everyone in Canada can see through Poilievre's MO.
Leadership review is in order!!
Dob't agree with you about Carney not dancing the YMCA song. The videos of him dancing after the election win show he doesnt care about looking weitd dancing. It was pure anti Trump and even for him not being seen as sucking up to Trump for voters back home.
Still no coverage of the speaker of the house and his expensive Jamaican vacation.
Brian - i agree that the Cdn bum in the Ambassadorial chair in Washington, should be a politician’s. There are delicate considerations: to MAGA or not to MAGA? If Caroline Mulroney conjures the ghost of her dad for some octogenarian R Senators, is that going to get us what we need from the new Congress? Everyone under 40 in the Beltway is an economic nationalist - who are we courting? Other consideration: the mid-terms. What if the script flips, and the Dems win Congressional control? I agree a political figure is the one you want - but someone who is equally adept with Zonron Mandani, and Josh Hawley. I think that is Kenney - never seen anyone work a room better, or dial a speech, recently anyway
carney had no problem dancing the elbows up chicken dance the night of April 28/25... Yeah, he's all prepped to do a serious job...
Again, thank you for the commentary and coverage. I would be curious as to your reaction to this commentary from a (retired, I think) Toronto economist. He has a contrary view to the ambassador switcheroo. You each make valid points. https://open.substack.com/pub/bryanmoir/p/when-instability-is-a-strategy?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
Carney is as likely to appoint Mulroney as he is to appoint Stephen Harper.
And yet, here you are!