I’m seriously thinking about getting out of this country and hope my kids do too. If the conservatives dump Poilievre it will change nothing. The only “conservative” the media, laurentian (sp) elite and China will allow is someone like Doug Ford. In other words another liberal. I don’t think we live in a democracy anymore
The Librano Crime Family has us over a barrel at the moment. I believe they are riddled with extortionist leaders in the ‘party’ and in foreign nations. It will take a wildly brilliant leader to pull the Conservatives out of the quagmire and into a majority government. Poilievre is very good but currently lacks the brilliance and media support to overcome the Librano apparatus. Can we make Pierre brilliant in time to win a couple of bi- elections and prevent further poaching ? Let’s hope so because the Country cannot survive 3 more years of Librano rule.
Excellent point about anti-Poilievre folks thinking he is mean. Why? Baffles me, for sure. Since 2015, Canadian voters have been subjected to a soft government. We have your back!. Lets do selfies! In the meanwhile our economy has been in decline and with it our social fiber ,evidenced by the mounting homeless encampments. We have arrived at the point where these encampments are acceptable. No one is telling their MPs and MPPs to address the cause. Instead lets find more accommodations for them. Likewise, the decline in homeownership is now on the back burner as Prime Minister Carney talks building a strong military defense. Affordability is not a headline issue, yet the lineups at food banks keeps increasing. Now Poilievre is mean because he feels these are issues which need solutions and not bandages! Wake up Canada!!
It does matter who the CPC puts up the. MSM will brand him/her with some liberal evil. Backbone, honesty, and integrity will win out in the end. I am not sure PP has all three, but at least he has 2 of them. The other leaders have zero.
Yet. It is Carney who is most likely Trump. I have always said he's Trump light , but will fill his bank account before going back home to Ireland or wherever he really lives. Funny thing is American analysts had already predicted that Trudeau would be replaced and the new leader would win. Funny how the American people control Canada's electoral outcomes
The problem is not just government spending and massive unprecedented immigration policies. With inflation especially in the food sector, instability in the employment, housing and stock market sector…not only Canada but the western democratic nations are facing bankruptcy.
This is by design. Restructuring of the global financial system and introducing digital currency / AI that can be monitored.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. One World Order has been the agenda since the 2015 UN SUMMIT AGREEMENT.
What this elite group did not factor in has been the strategic manipulation of the CCP/United Front directing the course of humanity. Slowly but surely they have entered every asy of western society… not just Canada. Although Canada has proven to be their poster child.
These Liberals and the entire government has been coerced and manipulated into believing that they can “use” Canadians to their advantage. And they’re doing a bang up job of it. Traitors to benefit their own bottom line and position within this New World Order.
Fascism with a Democrat cover! The reality when politicians get into a opposite position not voted for by the tax paying citizens!
The west wef countries appear to bought into the 1977 globalists council on foreign relations which called for “controlled disintegration of the World economy”, for a moderate international order” Argued that it was the antithesis to the Hamiltonian American System and of which resulted in the decline of North America manufacturing and European industry.
Europe and UK have will and are blocking interfering with elections in which the left are struggling for votes. They have like we are seeing in Canada conniving cheating breaking peoples trust in elections overall. Treating it like business takeovers through money promises and the belief that they can change the USA mid term election to oust Trump and his re-industrialization/manufacturing sovereignty of the USA. Remember the premature covid chant build it back better/greener
Seems to be plenty of talk and deals on paper these days, but milk is still around $7 for 3 litres while farmers dump gallons of the stuff; butter is still $7.50, eggs $7, beef is like gold, meanwhile Carney blows $7000 per hour on food, the MPs get another pay raise, and Nero continues fiddling while Rome burns. Lost all faith in the CPC to ever do anything and Carney so far is no better. A pox on all their houses.
It would be great to see them do better, but there is no sign of that happening. I see retirees every day, most of whom seem to be on healthy pensions, no problem to them to spend $400 for a week's groceries and go to Costa Rica for the winter. Then I see elderly folk who should be home with the grandkids working in Walmart, and younger folk who will never get on the housing ladder. Meantime, CMHC report that housing starts are down. What happened to 500,000 homes per year? The CPC need to come up with an actual plan that makes sense, and explain how they intend to govern and implement their plan. Slogans don't do it. Carney has lots of corporate experience - CEO's don't last long if they don't show results for the shareholders. Time for Carney and the Libs to show some results instead of more paper.
It doesn’t matter what you “”said”. With unprecedented foreign interference and the ONE WORLD ORDER agenda on full display for all to see (for those that choose to), it will be impossible to stop the puppet Liberal governing body from pushing their mandates through.
This is a plan that has been in place for a very long time. There are too many players that have more power to stop any opposition. Unfortunately..
Only the people themselves en masse can change their deeply rooted plan for global dominance. Canada itself is weak. But together with likeminded nations, maybe something can be done. Otherwise just accept and go with the flow. Seems to be an acceptable option for many Canadians at least.
And Trump is not the overwhelming issue. This group wants power nations to be eliminated. The CCP have another agenda. Complicated and terrifying.
If the Liberals keep poaching conservative platforms (usually followed by more “talk and promises”…their M.O)…and their lack of results, how much more are the conservatives “allowed to do”.
John Powell is correct. The Conservatives are NOT the governing body. They can only challenge policies and recommendations alternatives.
Hopefully, at some point, the massive foreign interference and coercion will be addressed.
Your statement on Carney’s expertise may be relevant in the corporate world. Governing an entire country is a difference story all together. In many areas he can’t relate.
He is not addressing any issues on a board of directors.
And his agenda is not benefiting Canadians. However, his mandates are addressing his “use” of Canada.
I’ll keep my fingers crossed and wish for the best for Canada, and maybe the conservatives with the support of other parties, will at least try to change this impossible present course.
This is a total ambush by Carney not an issue by Pierre!! Carney is a dirty slimy player!! I hope Trump kicks he and his family along with Crookfield right out of the US!!
Every time the government gets involved in propping up Canadian companies for defence procurement, it's a complete failure. It is always the Liberal's in power and it's always Liberal connected companies. This is a horrible decision and only because of the anti-Trump BS.
If the Conservatives dump Poilievre on account of these floor crossings, they will never govern again. It was not caused by something he did to those guys. I don't say this because I am a big fan of Pierre, incidentally. Rather, it's like blaming the coach because three players are out with knee injuries.
Poilievre's big problem where I live is that few people even think about politics in terms where he matters. To surprising numbers of Boomers, politics means Trump Derangement Syndrome and the accompanying Elbows Up! crap that gets them down to the polls to vote for Carney. They retired in affluence, they don't seem to care about those who will never have what they did, and they probably give Carney his balance of power.
Those are tough problems for the Tories but dumping Pierre will do nothing about any of them.
I didn't think you were advocating it, Brian. I mean rather that, while gratifying someone's ambition, another leader dump will seriously weaken the party. The problems the Tories face just now are not caused by anything P. is doing that someone else would do differently. That's when you DON'T change the leader or fire the coach.
Brian, even if Carney gets enough floor crossers for a majority, does it change anything at the committee level or does an election have to take place for there to be changes?
I think this floor crossing may be a reprieve for Poilievre if it avoids a spring election where another loss would see him resigning. Let the Liberals govern through a recession and see how that works out. The last thing the Cons need is a snap election right now with Carney playing Daddy Canada to the Elbows Up crowd
The liberals have been governing through a recession for two years now. The government economists conceal it with subterfuge. Figures can lie and liars can figure
What mess are we leaving for the generation following in our footsteps? Can they survive, even thrive and prosper? I am fed up with the lies and abuse of my taxes that is leading our destruction.
Who thinks bike lanes in Ottawa is a good idea an the snowplows are dispatched to clear them?
Who thinks it is a good idea to create another overlord department when we have CHMC?
Who thinks the National Capital Commision (NCC) is doing a good job?
Oops the official Prime Minister residence was or is overrun by rats... Conroy pit dog park is a tinder box of deadwood waiting for a match to destroy homes that surround it and politic leader will shout "CLIMATE CHANGE".
While only some Ottawa residents may care; don't get me going about the new civic hospital or our light rail transit system... sorry for my ranting or boring you. Thank you taxpayers.
As a Poilievre supporter, when Chris d’Entremont crossed the floor, I was very disheartened for days. Then Michael Ma followed, and more sadness. Now, with Matt Jeneroux, I appear to be more immune, but very much now wondering about our democracy.
Under a democracy the people can elect who they want to represent their interests in the House of Parliament. In that House of Parliament, political parties promote their policies, and correspondingly the views of their electorate. In all three cases the people in their riding supported the Poilievre Conservatives. Yet, all three elected representatives of the people decided to change their views for their personal gain, with complete disregard for the wishes of those Canadians who voted them into political office. Is that democratic?
I believe that Pierre Poilievre can survive this character defection. It isn’t Pierre that drives this defection bus, it’s Carney. The MP’s that crossed the floor are not in the job for the betterment of Canada, they are power seekers, and so with a little bit of encouragement from The Elite, they tremble at the knees and run into the waiting arms of Carney! How long will they feel useful in that camp? They can’t all sit in the front row in the house, surrounding Carney. Soon they will realize that they were bought and they will be sitting in the back, not feeling all that important. They were elected to be public servants, as in they work for us, and not for the highest bidder!
Tells you everything you need to know about Canada in 2026. With the Liberals about to unleash the fire hose $80 billion in military spending, and $30 billion in high speed rail between Ottawa and Montreal - The liberals have a lock on power through 2040.
The press gallery in Ottawa is more interested in holding Jivani and Poilievre to account than the government. Why ask tough questions of the government when you can grill the opposition party that controls nothing.
The this weeks crossing has been going on for 3 months we all seen it coming he is a moron. It's funny ppl blame PIERRE for it, we have a Con in charge it's Con Carney. GET RID OF CARNEY OR THE RCMP. 🙏
We are advising our children and grandchildren to MOVE to another province- Alberta, actually as we see that there may be some hope there. Referring to the comment of Marcie-"I don't think we live in a democracy anymore", we agree completely, we do not. Only the elbows up crowd are too foolish, and stupid to see it, sadly. It pains me to say "stupid", however, it is an absolute fact.
The logic makes no sense. The whole Matt is resiging because of family was an obvious lie to begin with. He got cold feet, but whatever Carney offered made him bury his integrity. If there was serious problems in the party they would have buried PP in the review. Quite the opposite happened. PP will not survive another election lose, but I think it will take another election lose to lose party support. The longer Carney's government lasts the less chance he can blame everything on Trump. Canadians will eventually want to see results. I have seen no tangebile signs of change in Liberal policy to date. Just talk to keep people pacified.
I’m seriously thinking about getting out of this country and hope my kids do too. If the conservatives dump Poilievre it will change nothing. The only “conservative” the media, laurentian (sp) elite and China will allow is someone like Doug Ford. In other words another liberal. I don’t think we live in a democracy anymore
The Librano Crime Family has us over a barrel at the moment. I believe they are riddled with extortionist leaders in the ‘party’ and in foreign nations. It will take a wildly brilliant leader to pull the Conservatives out of the quagmire and into a majority government. Poilievre is very good but currently lacks the brilliance and media support to overcome the Librano apparatus. Can we make Pierre brilliant in time to win a couple of bi- elections and prevent further poaching ? Let’s hope so because the Country cannot survive 3 more years of Librano rule.
I am feeling it Marcie. Insanity
Agreed!
Jeneroux fits Carneys persona. Liars both.
There is anger towards liberal governance where I frequent; grocery store to gym to indie work shop. …is palpable.
Maybe it’s my bubble.
My well fixed friends , when I point to the soaring US stock market, say “but real wages have not improved and very few people invest in stocks”
Fostering Trump hatred ( that plays well
in the media )and ignoring trouble here.
4500 restaurant bankruptcies. 60% increase in mortgage foreclosures.
6.7% food inflation. 4.7 million expired visas and no tracking.
Paid, propagandized MSM. Even the Sun falls into that trap.
How long can this continue? Net zero idealogy and unfettered immigration is killing Canada as we know it.
I've written many columns on all the issues that you raised above.
I've pointed out that these are our own fault, nothing to do with Trump.
Sad reality is, there is a strong core of voters who base all their decisions on two things.
1. They hate Trump.
2. They think Pierre is mean and just like Trump.
It is impossible to reason with people in this mindset.
Excellent point about anti-Poilievre folks thinking he is mean. Why? Baffles me, for sure. Since 2015, Canadian voters have been subjected to a soft government. We have your back!. Lets do selfies! In the meanwhile our economy has been in decline and with it our social fiber ,evidenced by the mounting homeless encampments. We have arrived at the point where these encampments are acceptable. No one is telling their MPs and MPPs to address the cause. Instead lets find more accommodations for them. Likewise, the decline in homeownership is now on the back burner as Prime Minister Carney talks building a strong military defense. Affordability is not a headline issue, yet the lineups at food banks keeps increasing. Now Poilievre is mean because he feels these are issues which need solutions and not bandages! Wake up Canada!!
Reasoning with some in Canada is difficult.
So I have a handful of democratic listening friends.
We CAN’T survive the spendy ways of the Liberal party, neglecting building homes bringing in immigrants too.
2.1 trillion $ debt & counting :(
It does matter who the CPC puts up the. MSM will brand him/her with some liberal evil. Backbone, honesty, and integrity will win out in the end. I am not sure PP has all three, but at least he has 2 of them. The other leaders have zero.
Yet. It is Carney who is most likely Trump. I have always said he's Trump light , but will fill his bank account before going back home to Ireland or wherever he really lives. Funny thing is American analysts had already predicted that Trudeau would be replaced and the new leader would win. Funny how the American people control Canada's electoral outcomes
Well stated. We only hear one sided biased “ truths”.
The problem is not just government spending and massive unprecedented immigration policies. With inflation especially in the food sector, instability in the employment, housing and stock market sector…not only Canada but the western democratic nations are facing bankruptcy.
This is by design. Restructuring of the global financial system and introducing digital currency / AI that can be monitored.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. One World Order has been the agenda since the 2015 UN SUMMIT AGREEMENT.
What this elite group did not factor in has been the strategic manipulation of the CCP/United Front directing the course of humanity. Slowly but surely they have entered every asy of western society… not just Canada. Although Canada has proven to be their poster child.
These Liberals and the entire government has been coerced and manipulated into believing that they can “use” Canadians to their advantage. And they’re doing a bang up job of it. Traitors to benefit their own bottom line and position within this New World Order.
Fascism with a Democrat cover! The reality when politicians get into a opposite position not voted for by the tax paying citizens!
The west wef countries appear to bought into the 1977 globalists council on foreign relations which called for “controlled disintegration of the World economy”, for a moderate international order” Argued that it was the antithesis to the Hamiltonian American System and of which resulted in the decline of North America manufacturing and European industry.
Europe and UK have will and are blocking interfering with elections in which the left are struggling for votes. They have like we are seeing in Canada conniving cheating breaking peoples trust in elections overall. Treating it like business takeovers through money promises and the belief that they can change the USA mid term election to oust Trump and his re-industrialization/manufacturing sovereignty of the USA. Remember the premature covid chant build it back better/greener
Seems to be plenty of talk and deals on paper these days, but milk is still around $7 for 3 litres while farmers dump gallons of the stuff; butter is still $7.50, eggs $7, beef is like gold, meanwhile Carney blows $7000 per hour on food, the MPs get another pay raise, and Nero continues fiddling while Rome burns. Lost all faith in the CPC to ever do anything and Carney so far is no better. A pox on all their houses.
Agree except our only chance is to give conservatives like Poilievre, Brock Cooper, Barrett ,Kusie ,Jivani et al ( it’s a strong list) to do better.
It would be great to see them do better, but there is no sign of that happening. I see retirees every day, most of whom seem to be on healthy pensions, no problem to them to spend $400 for a week's groceries and go to Costa Rica for the winter. Then I see elderly folk who should be home with the grandkids working in Walmart, and younger folk who will never get on the housing ladder. Meantime, CMHC report that housing starts are down. What happened to 500,000 homes per year? The CPC need to come up with an actual plan that makes sense, and explain how they intend to govern and implement their plan. Slogans don't do it. Carney has lots of corporate experience - CEO's don't last long if they don't show results for the shareholders. Time for Carney and the Libs to show some results instead of more paper.
Conservatives are not elected to form the government. How do you want them to do better?
Quit the slogans and come up with a plan that makes sense. Be ready for an election. Read what I said earlier.
Pierre has come up with many plans and they were all stolen by the liberals.
Give me strength. All carney does is spout slogans. Conservatives need to do seat math. It’s hard ; liberals have purchased the entire mainstream
Media and populate social media relentlessly with your tax dollars.
It doesn’t matter what you “”said”. With unprecedented foreign interference and the ONE WORLD ORDER agenda on full display for all to see (for those that choose to), it will be impossible to stop the puppet Liberal governing body from pushing their mandates through.
This is a plan that has been in place for a very long time. There are too many players that have more power to stop any opposition. Unfortunately..
Only the people themselves en masse can change their deeply rooted plan for global dominance. Canada itself is weak. But together with likeminded nations, maybe something can be done. Otherwise just accept and go with the flow. Seems to be an acceptable option for many Canadians at least.
And Trump is not the overwhelming issue. This group wants power nations to be eliminated. The CCP have another agenda. Complicated and terrifying.
If the Liberals keep poaching conservative platforms (usually followed by more “talk and promises”…their M.O)…and their lack of results, how much more are the conservatives “allowed to do”.
John Powell is correct. The Conservatives are NOT the governing body. They can only challenge policies and recommendations alternatives.
Hopefully, at some point, the massive foreign interference and coercion will be addressed.
Your statement on Carney’s expertise may be relevant in the corporate world. Governing an entire country is a difference story all together. In many areas he can’t relate.
He is not addressing any issues on a board of directors.
And his agenda is not benefiting Canadians. However, his mandates are addressing his “use” of Canada.
Not sure they’ll ever be allowed to.
I’m
An
Optimist.
I’ll keep my fingers crossed and wish for the best for Canada, and maybe the conservatives with the support of other parties, will at least try to change this impossible present course.
This is a total ambush by Carney not an issue by Pierre!! Carney is a dirty slimy player!! I hope Trump kicks he and his family along with Crookfield right out of the US!!
Every time the government gets involved in propping up Canadian companies for defence procurement, it's a complete failure. It is always the Liberal's in power and it's always Liberal connected companies. This is a horrible decision and only because of the anti-Trump BS.
And to boost Brookfield investments.
I notice that the tv media didn’t let Canadians know that Carney flew to Edmonton to meet with buddy. How crass on our taxpayers money.
If the Conservatives dump Poilievre on account of these floor crossings, they will never govern again. It was not caused by something he did to those guys. I don't say this because I am a big fan of Pierre, incidentally. Rather, it's like blaming the coach because three players are out with knee injuries.
Poilievre's big problem where I live is that few people even think about politics in terms where he matters. To surprising numbers of Boomers, politics means Trump Derangement Syndrome and the accompanying Elbows Up! crap that gets them down to the polls to vote for Carney. They retired in affluence, they don't seem to care about those who will never have what they did, and they probably give Carney his balance of power.
Those are tough problems for the Tories but dumping Pierre will do nothing about any of them.
I'm not advocating dumping Poilievre, but politicians are an ambitious lot.
"The noble Brutus
Hath told you Caesar was ambitious:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
And grievously hath Caesar answer’d it."
Jeneroux's floor crossing was about his ambition. Someone watching may think that Poilievre is weakened by this and decide that they could do better.
Ambition is an interesting thing in politics.
I didn't think you were advocating it, Brian. I mean rather that, while gratifying someone's ambition, another leader dump will seriously weaken the party. The problems the Tories face just now are not caused by anything P. is doing that someone else would do differently. That's when you DON'T change the leader or fire the coach.
Nothing says “full confidence in the party leader” than a continual loss of MPs to the other side.
Brian, even if Carney gets enough floor crossers for a majority, does it change anything at the committee level or does an election have to take place for there to be changes?
Carney was flossing about the fact recruitment in the armed forces was up 13 per cent. But I wonder if that is because of the tough job market.
It's increased because they allow Permanent Residents to join now.
Jeez, I'm not even going to be shot while protesting by a Canadian now?
Canada doesn’t shoot protesters - you have to go to the US for that.
Are you ok? Did you miss your medication? WTF does that have to do with allowing Permanent Residents to join the CAF, increased recruitment numbers?
It depends on whether the expanded military is required for external or internal threats.
...or..a lotta civilians wanted military training..JIC
The TV media needs to stop with the pile on Pierre. No matter which party, if the floor grosser wants to go, he will go.
I wonder if Jeneroux donated his salary since he said he would resign or if that was just another lie.
I think this floor crossing may be a reprieve for Poilievre if it avoids a spring election where another loss would see him resigning. Let the Liberals govern through a recession and see how that works out. The last thing the Cons need is a snap election right now with Carney playing Daddy Canada to the Elbows Up crowd
The liberals have been governing through a recession for two years now. The government economists conceal it with subterfuge. Figures can lie and liars can figure
What mess are we leaving for the generation following in our footsteps? Can they survive, even thrive and prosper? I am fed up with the lies and abuse of my taxes that is leading our destruction.
Who thinks bike lanes in Ottawa is a good idea an the snowplows are dispatched to clear them?
Who thinks it is a good idea to create another overlord department when we have CHMC?
Who thinks the National Capital Commision (NCC) is doing a good job?
Oops the official Prime Minister residence was or is overrun by rats... Conroy pit dog park is a tinder box of deadwood waiting for a match to destroy homes that surround it and politic leader will shout "CLIMATE CHANGE".
While only some Ottawa residents may care; don't get me going about the new civic hospital or our light rail transit system... sorry for my ranting or boring you. Thank you taxpayers.
I left Ottawa as a teenager. I disliked it intensely
As a Poilievre supporter, when Chris d’Entremont crossed the floor, I was very disheartened for days. Then Michael Ma followed, and more sadness. Now, with Matt Jeneroux, I appear to be more immune, but very much now wondering about our democracy.
Under a democracy the people can elect who they want to represent their interests in the House of Parliament. In that House of Parliament, political parties promote their policies, and correspondingly the views of their electorate. In all three cases the people in their riding supported the Poilievre Conservatives. Yet, all three elected representatives of the people decided to change their views for their personal gain, with complete disregard for the wishes of those Canadians who voted them into political office. Is that democratic?
I believe that Pierre Poilievre can survive this character defection. It isn’t Pierre that drives this defection bus, it’s Carney. The MP’s that crossed the floor are not in the job for the betterment of Canada, they are power seekers, and so with a little bit of encouragement from The Elite, they tremble at the knees and run into the waiting arms of Carney! How long will they feel useful in that camp? They can’t all sit in the front row in the house, surrounding Carney. Soon they will realize that they were bought and they will be sitting in the back, not feeling all that important. They were elected to be public servants, as in they work for us, and not for the highest bidder!
ya..Pierre can survive..but the crossers??..jury's still out on that..
Jamil Jivani is a traitor!
Matt Jeneroux is a hero!
Tells you everything you need to know about Canada in 2026. With the Liberals about to unleash the fire hose $80 billion in military spending, and $30 billion in high speed rail between Ottawa and Montreal - The liberals have a lock on power through 2040.
The press gallery in Ottawa is more interested in holding Jivani and Poilievre to account than the government. Why ask tough questions of the government when you can grill the opposition party that controls nothing.
I sense some frustration with your media colleagues. (I deliberately avoided calling them journalists).
ooops...my apologies, Jerry ..misread that..?
No problem!
I don't think I am supposed to know if I am brainwashed, so I'll have to defer to your opinion! Keep an eye on me.
👍 🤠
We can only hope not. Canada will be sold…and Brookfield stocks will benefit.
Rather a lock on profits for various Brookfield assets. Look at the holdings that Brookfield invests in.
And if we (heaven forbid) still have this governing body in 2040, we will not have Canada, except in name only.
Actually, in 2015, Justine announced Canada as the world's first Post National State..(aka..PNS-1)..(I have yet to personally thank him.).
The this weeks crossing has been going on for 3 months we all seen it coming he is a moron. It's funny ppl blame PIERRE for it, we have a Con in charge it's Con Carney. GET RID OF CARNEY OR THE RCMP. 🙏
...and nuke China..just for shits and giggles..👍
We are advising our children and grandchildren to MOVE to another province- Alberta, actually as we see that there may be some hope there. Referring to the comment of Marcie-"I don't think we live in a democracy anymore", we agree completely, we do not. Only the elbows up crowd are too foolish, and stupid to see it, sadly. It pains me to say "stupid", however, it is an absolute fact.
The logic makes no sense. The whole Matt is resiging because of family was an obvious lie to begin with. He got cold feet, but whatever Carney offered made him bury his integrity. If there was serious problems in the party they would have buried PP in the review. Quite the opposite happened. PP will not survive another election lose, but I think it will take another election lose to lose party support. The longer Carney's government lasts the less chance he can blame everything on Trump. Canadians will eventually want to see results. I have seen no tangebile signs of change in Liberal policy to date. Just talk to keep people pacified.